Shell is bringing the Indian “engineers” to North America as Expats, as well as in local terms. Are they cost effective?? I am not sure.
Anybody any comment??
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They’re cheaper in that they’re willing to work a lower JG than they are qualified for. Working on LNN terms on a lateral move and slotting them in at 80PIR is still a stupidly massive pay bump. Leadership would rather import talent and underpay than progress staff locally.
Why Indians? Pretty much every new engineer aspires to be a manager these days and it is Shell that is solely responsible for the state of affairs of gutting their talent profile by enabling power hungry leaders to create “my portfolio of businesses under me” rather than focusing on collaboration and delivery, Even the SRD and recruitment drives emphasize on finding the next CEO and technical talent now is capped pretty much to a JG 2 (more realistically a JG3). So I would challenge that this question and broaden it to pretty much all new engineers. BtW, I have seen some very well talented and qualified PhDs now doing jobs such as External Relations, Real Estate and Product Stewardship, all that could be done with a BS degree. What a waste of the grind of grad school and doctoral scholarship and mismanagement of talent by Shell that has stifled technical careers and brought PhDs to make such career choices (granted at higher JGs)
Yeah, asking a PhD to take a job for $50,000 a year is not a labor shortage. It is just wage suppression. Those Indians will take those jobs and then eventually, the company claims they cannot find any qualified Americans. But in reality, qualified Americans will not work those wages.
Contact your congressman as we have got to get H1B visits decreased. They BS saying there aren't enough technical workers while laying off Americans
Lack of competence combined with lack of confidence leads to dependence on nepotism.
Google for declassified 1970s conversation in times about Indians. Can go down to lowest level to please superiors for expat postings and career growth. Highly nepotistic.
They just want to become managers. They have no interest in actual technical work. There are so many in my team. One of them has made it his mission in life to move job tasks to SBO in Bangalore. Leads to huge amounts of wasted time coaching and then reworking.
Singapore has the experience that they, as managers and HR, will replace the locals with their own village people. Who cares if they can work or not.
They just want to do the minimum. One in my team always tries to kiss up, “organize meetings” and do “lunch catch up”. Lots of posing and no technical expertise.
In Deepwater development, many Indians were brought here as Local Non Nationals. All of them have been able to change base country and stay here. One of the subsurface discipline managers is Indian. He openly talks about how he doesn’t care if the Americans quit because he can always fill openings with Local Non Nationals.
If they come to North America, they're not cheaper than the locals. I guess the savings would be in the long run if they go back to India on local terms.
I don't know about this specific situation,, that's H1B visa, pretty common in the industry.