Thread regarding ExxonMobil Corp. layoffs

Job Postings at EM would still not lead to the most qualified candidate getting the good assessments.

Sponsorship prevails over proven competency in EM.

HR complete control of job position allocation to chosen sponsored id--ts instead of qualified persons that earned the positions is the reason that EM does not have job posting system.

Moving sponsored chosen people artificially up the ladder at a dizzying pace is HR’s primary focus.

@1cjt It’s boring because you old guys keep whining about the same old $hit.

Just friggin’ leave if it’s really that bad. I’m sure with your “decades of expertise” you’ll land a new job with an 800% pay raise and six months paid vacation in no time.

@1jyj It’s true. The work isn’t all that hard, and there’s not much of it to do at the individual level.

What’s so controversial about that?

When HR took over all staffing directly and took Supervisors and Department Managers out of the chain of staffing, the Supervisor and Department Manager learn about those ideal positions when the announcement is posted showing a sponsored id--t already placed in that position.

Department Managers of disciplines removed from any input unless the position is so low that inappropriate for a sponsored id--t.

Also the “sponsor” calls the Supervisor or Project Manager to ensure ranking at the top.

We just had a promotion in our department where the new manager is non white and woman. But in most of our opinions she is the best candidate to backfill the outgoing white male manager who was also very competent. I think sometimes company does get it right, but of course this new manager will have much harder time than her predecessor just because she looks different- go figure.

@1piu What’s boring to you is important information for younger people who are making life choices. The point of this site is for younger people to get the truth from more experienced people before allowing themselves to become locked into a system.

Hey “the work isn’t hard” guy, I keep seeing your posts pushing this same theme of lazy employees working easy jobs cutting and pasting stuff. Do you work at ExxonMobil? Where is this cut and paste job? Is this just about denigrating your coworkers? I’m truly curious because I’ve never seen this. All I can figure is that you are trying to whip up hatred between the US employees and BTC employees.

@1xxj To answer your specific question, yes sponsorship is an official thing in the form of an HR and senior management led mentorship program. It started decades ago to address the fact that women and minorities were not advancing proportionally. The target person is formally assigned a true senior management mentor. In addition to mentoring sessions, the “sponsor” has a say in all job moves for the individual. This is different from the all employee mentoring program where the participant are matched with lower level ordinary mentors who have no role in managing the persons career.

You guys have Human Resources? What’s that like , crickets here in Clinton, was useless before the two meatballs disappeared..now worse …..if that’s possible …08801

@1oed More grumpy old white guys whining about diversity. Boring….

@1bdq It’s pretty simple. Diversity advancements are based on diversity, not ability, experience, or achievement. You can cherry pick your statistics to prove whatever you want to believe. I’ve spent the second half of my career working my a-s off to prop up incompetent diversity promotions that we all know will never amount to anything. Why is equal treatment for all so threatening to you?

“If you're a hard working productive person that is loyal to your job, it doesn't matter.”

The work isn’t hard, there isn’t much of it to do, and you’re not great and what little of it you actually do.

Loyalty has nothing to do with why you’re still there. You’re all interviewing constantly and getting bounced because you’re objectively bad hires and you’re asking for compensation that is totally incommensurate with the actual skills you bring to the job market. That’s why you’re still at Exxon.

@1xxj It’s just picking winners and losers.

It’s also another thing that disgruntled senior employees whine about. Most people ignore them and hope they’ll retire sooner rather than later. They usually quiet down when they catch a PIP - probably the main reason for the policy.

@1zqk So the executives at EM are 90% white and 70% male and somehow “minorities” have an unfair leg-up. Make it make sense.

Most common form of sponsorship is having a mentor relationship with a senior executive who intervenes in job advancement decisions. Most mentor relationships are based on gender or minority status. There have been efforts over the years to provide mentors to all but the matching is done by managers who have diversity targets in their bonus equations, so little has come of those efforts. Anyone who doesn’t want to recognize the reality of “reverse discrimination” can go ahead and hate this post.

Can someone who knows explain what it means to be “sponsored?” I’ve heard this before but how does that actually happen? Is it official or just subjective ?

@OP We need to take a blowtorch to this “expert” BS.

Every third party contractor and vendor who has ever dealt with you knows that your “expertise” consists of copy/pasting generic industry specs and throwing tantrums over how they’re met, usually making giant fools of yourselves in the process. It’s debatable whether an actual person is even needed to do that, let alone a self-styled “expert”.

The rest of your comment is the boiler-plate “reverse discrimination” nonsense that’s easily debunked by walking around the office with your eyes open.

If you're a hard working productive person that is loyal to your job, it doesn't matter. All you need is a big mouth that talks a lot about a bunch of BS that the company enjoys hearing, an them you will be the greatest thing since sliced bread. If you're a highly intelligent introvert that actually does all the REAL work , then you are doomed at XOM. If you can retire, please do. That's what I did and life is great after you leave all the stress behind you.

What saddens me is that I spent countless hours on a project to make it the best possible. Careless manager who didn’t care a flip about it except as a stepping stone. He just flipped it to an incompetent backfill who has knowledge, unwilling to learn or listen, and tried to hide mistakes. I hated seeing my hard work crumble.

My former manager had no accountability for the damage.

Yup. The meritocracy is long dead. Once you lose a sponsor - there is nothing you can do to fix it. Skill. Hardwork. Nothing matters.

#not the company I joined.

It’s insane to me that we don’t have a jobs board. I missed out on the most ideal job for me professionally and for my personal life just because my boss says they didn’t know about the job opening and the new job manager didn’t know I was available.

It’s frustrating how much they ask us to use career connect to keep the data up to date but they don’t actually use it.

If you do not have a sponsor, just lower your expectations or go to another company.