In speaking with several inside the company, it's confirmed that Dell is taking steps to hire younger employees to replace the older, more tenured employees. I'm sure the starting salaries are much less too. So this last WFR was a reset. Probably won't hire a 1 for 1, but certainly it helps the company to reduce headcount and/or backfill with cheaper employees.
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Most of the work is moving over to Bangalore as well. Cheaper isn't always better.
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Providing context to clarify that I did not speak out of ignorance- the new hire shared the wrong screen and their pay was up there for all to see so we know for a fact this new person doing the same job was getting paid substantially more than the person training them that had been at Dell for 12 years and in the position for 5. This was almost 2 years ago.. today that person who was new su-ks and the lower paid SMEs clean up the mess. But yes, different areas pay more - cyber security for example pays far more than Premier service roles.
" 25+ year Sales AE's"
you know tech is not like fine wine. Age is not its strength.
you knowing about DOs and win3.11 does not convince me to go AI
I've seen it first hand. The group is the NGSA (Next Generation Sales Associate). The recruitment is from college interns. After internship, they work Inside at Dell. Then move to the field. 25+ year Sales AE's are being flushed and replaced by NGSA's.
My husband worked at Dell for over 20+ years - I got hired on one grade under him making the same as him. The new hires being trained by my old team all made more than those that had been there 10-15 years. That being said, I do see the push to hire younger and right out of college people but the pay does not seem to be lower.
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It depends on the direction dell wants to grow. If you belong in the team that is in that direction, the compensation is high. Dont speak without evidence , it shows your ignorance.
Secondly, There are many many individuals who have been coveting these positions due to the compensation. They have been hired at even higher positions with 500k comp just because they are hiring manager's friend.
Dont underestimate the corruption by Dell EMC veterans.
Now the rubber meets the road. These "highly skilled" people have been projected so far as performing, but the BU isnt able to bring in the money.
So cuts are evitable. We just have to see who is the favorite child among all the favorites of the hiring manager. In the meantime the whole team will be a multi-millionaire for the 2-4 yrs they work together.
It is so embarrassing going through a conference call with your customer and an offshore services person that is supposed to help install and do knowledge transfers of software. Most of the time the customer can't understand the services person, we have to make up excuses like your cell phone is not the best or the customer continually asking can you speak slower. Very uncomfortable but the new way of life at Dell
I was an old I-8 making 140 and was whacked in Feb I know for being a high expense. Was at the top of my game but whack whack chop chop
You mean 400k Rupie. Right?
No i8 makes $ 250k
This doesnt work for newly formed teams.
Newly formed teams are made of 55-65 yr olds from EmC.
Check the nonsense culture in those teams.mgr has zero quality to manage people. Leads are like i8.
Their resume wont even pass the recruiter filter today. They are getting 450-500k. Facts!
Yes. All offshore. That’s the strategy. Hire offshore. Very much an early 2000’s model, which makes sense for Dell.
Dell pays sh-t. Always has and will. Just the corporate cycle. Throw them a few gen next ergs and pay poor....but great opportunities for growth
dell at 400k salary?
you just pulled any number out of your bottocks?
Now the new enemy is new grads instead of H1 visas?
youth is the face of tech. every company wants new faces.
You people need lives
Some grads set to start in Cherrwood in the next few weeks.
Grads work longer for less money.
Grad salary is a lot less,roughly half of other emplyees
This isnt a rumour this is facts.
The OP is correct.
120K. That's a joke. The people that got wacked were north of 400K.
lol. you dolt. the new hires are same money if not as costly
minimum any engineer out of school today is north of 120k
my gawd you people sit around spinning yarns worse than a knitting circle
On my team every time we lose a skilled I9-I10 to a layoff our clown car management just tells us to find an offshore resource and train them to do the job.
Spoilers: this never works and results in not only the original job not getting done, but now the unfortunate person who survived the layoff has to babysit an offshore team that doesn’t know how to do the work (but is incentivized to pretend that they can do it)