If you think you can do your job effectively WFH, then you have just proved that is can be done remotely. As a bean counter it makes no sense to pay high cost labor when you can get it cheaper elsewhere.
Granted very specialized skills are harder to offshore, but majority is the jobs can be.
Proponents of WFH are not realizing they are not only digging their own graves, but also graves for future generation's job opportunities.
if you can do your job efficiently and effectively remotely you should not have to go to the office. If your job needs extensive collaboration, then sitting at home will not help.
Driving to the office won't save you.
If your main value add js keeping office seat warm, your job isn't long for this world.
@1qtz+1oxUTmPP keep dreaming ... until you can only dream of having a job
There is a difference between being able to work remotely, vs being able to work remotely efficiently. Often times for offshore folks, they are ineffective wherever they are at - home, office, cafe, doesn't matter.
IT jobs were being offshored long before the pandemic. Remember calling customer service and talking to someone in a different country? They only want us to RTO because local municipalities are losing tax revenues in downtown areas. They also need workers in these overpriced buildings to help save the commercial real estate market. Not to mention that WFH makes Middle managers unnecessary. You will find them crying the most and ba----g the drum for RTO.
Capitalism and corporate greed means long term jobs will move to low cost centers. Does not matter if the person in high cost center is working from home or office. Wasting time commuting every day will only make the employee less productive, fastening the job transfer.
WFH people will be the ones doing the work. RTO people will be the ones defining what work WFH people are going to be doing. Choose which camp you want to belong to.
Q is chock full of people who play politics, contribute little and keep getting promoted.
They are the cause of the toxic culture at Q.
Stock market and capitalism will push salaries to the bottom.
@vjj sadly, I witnessed some similar situation. An engineer was slacking off and not bother to learn the technical skills required, but the manager said he was efficient and understood thing well so the engineer got promoted. People who did the vital work got no credit. This Sr staff manager who didn't have the basic understanding of the team's technical work, hired and protected non-technical but political teammates, didn't bother to show up for giving some employee's focal review, got promoted to director. This is Q.
Race to the bottom does not help any worker, you are just screwed...
True - but pretending that work needs to be done at the office when it really doesn't is not a solution in the long run. As technology continues to advance, it will become harder and harder to say that WFH isn't viable. I suspect the industry will be going through an unsettling transition for the next 10+ years with respect to WFH.
@tvk+1oxUTmPP you would be welcome to wfh for Indian, Mexican or South American salary. Those are the people you will be competing with in the future.
Please realize it is not about wfh or rto. Jobs that can be done remotely will have downward pressure on salary. Jobs that need in person collaboration will pay more in the long run. If you can't see the difference between the two, good for you and if employers blindly enforce RTO, shame on them.
Or is it too late 🤔
Keep dreaming folks. Soon you will only be able to dream of having jobs.
I saw some guys abuse wfh policies. I noticed one coworker went back to India to wfh when she was employed by US region. She always show up in the midnight and send work related messages to us. Whenever asked her to have meetings, either she responded in the night or she gave some excuses and disappeared for several hours and reply in the night. Her behavior is selfish and abusing the policy by getting US salaries. I wish her manager figures out and do some proper action.
As long as work can be done with quality, why do you so care about wfh or work in the office? Unless you want harass someone, but he didn’t show up and it’s upsets you? lmao.
Remote work by an American engineer is 100x the quality of 100 Indians working in an office.
The comparison of one to one is laughable.
Work from office in solitude .... Offshored
WFH and work-from-office in solitude are pretty much equivalent when most of the team is overseas. Collaboration then is anyways at night time PST