If you were furloughed when he was here last, be prepared to be that way again. If he closed your location down before, you really thinke he's gonna allow you to stay open now? Just be ready. You WILL be cut and it'll probably be deeper than the first time.
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@2fxt You should’ve thought twice about having children. Let me remind you, you work at UP and can be terminated at any moment.
Yeah cut the managers. They should cut the MSOs also. Half of them hide in the locker room.
Managers to be let go this time around finally they figured out that they were a wasted salary coming in late to the job leaving early playing on their cell phones and sleeping in their trucks lazy managers should all be gone period!!!
When you have 4 kids and get furloughed it hurts enough ok no reason to be mean
@1nth Are you aware at all that you contradicted yourself? You said "It wasn't the employees that kept the company above water. So you see, yes employees and customers are the ones that keep you in business". That statement alone does highlight the very problem within the executive ranks. That issue is called ignorance. The very issue has absolutely NOTHING to do with solvency! The problems at the UP started with Fritz and his bad decisions. Vena showing up at the UP accelerated the problems. The company was doing just fine without Vena before. Even Fritz boasted about record profits before PSR and the employee cuts. You don't have to believe me on that. All you have to do is "research" it. I will disagree with you entirely about there being more to running a corporation than just keeping your employees and customers happy. That is the main thing that every corporation must do. If you don't believe that, then I'd suggest you call someone at Anheuser-Busch and ask them about one bad decision and how its affecting them. Corporations have to stop listening and pandering to the investors/shareholders. If a company/corporation takes care of it's employees, then the employees WILL take of the customers! You're obviously a Vena sympathizer, or you're Vena himself. The bad decisions being made at the UP is why the company is in such poor shape. Those "hard" decisions made by the CEO to please the shareholders, is going to lead to the insolvency of the UP. I'd suggest that you do a bit more "research" before you try to start a debate based solely on personal desire to defend someone who is widely hated by an entire industry.
Lmao. Y’all were so happy when Vena left well guess who’s back, back again , Venas back tell all your furloughed friends. 😀
Stupid managers always trolling this site instead of improving the railroad they spend time on here how would you run the UPPR? Id--t managers stay off this site
So happy I went to Amtrak! UP was a sh...t company to work for in 2007 when I first hired out, and it was even worse when I went back in 2021. My 2021 classmates will for sure be furloughed, and I would have been right there w them. Nah bruh, I'm a single mom w a 2 year old. Hanging off rail cars and hoping not to get cut ain't it.
For all those saying, "the CEO has a tough job, you don't know what it's like", I don't think Vena does either. He's just a well paid hatchetman/glorified yes man. He does whatever the hedgefunds tell him to do, that's what the board put him there for. "Make line go up, sell when it gets to another line".
What first cuts are the deepest?
The first cut is the deepest though
Also most companies if you research were started by wealthy people who had lots of investors. Vanderbilt, Hill, Gould, Huntington and Harriman to name a few. When things got hard it was them that made sure the company stayed solvent. It wasn't the employees that kept the company above water. So you see, yes employees and customers are the ones that keep you in business, there is more to running a Corporation than keeping them happy. I agree a happy employee is a productive employee, but where do you stop. If you pay your employees 100k a piece they still won't be happy just as is your customers. You can't keep everyone happy. As CEO you have to make those hard decisions.
That all sounds good, but that's not how companies make money. Take BNSF though Warren Buffett bought the company, it actually belongs to Berkshire Hathaway. In a company, yes your employees and customers are what makes it, it's actually your investors, board members and shareholders that control what money goes in and out. No one knows what Vena is going to do. Prior to Vena they were putting units in storage which is why they furloughed people. This was due to low 2nd quarter results. I'm not a Vena fan, but we haven't even seen his plan for UPRR yet. We don't know what he will be doing. Prior to Vena as CEO, he was hired to enforce PSR. As CEO he has to have a different operating system.
What I would do differently is to make sure that the company has a sufficient amount of employees to cover the demand for whatever service I was providing. As the head of the company, I would absolutely have to make sure that the employees were happy with the work they've been assigned to do. Generally unhappy employees tend to be less productive. The turnover rate for employees would have to be investigated if that rate was excessively high. Higher turnover rates have often been the result of poor management, and still is to this day. Then I would make sure that the service being provided to the customers is being done in a manner that is suited to their needs. Remember, the customer hired you to provide the services they need. The employees of any company often have direct contact with the customers and that's when situations can get heated, especially when the employees simply don't care about their job. Next thing would to be to make sure I had sufficient funds to sustain the services offered. Every company has its ups and downs. No company should be laying off any employees just because their stock price went down by a nickel. If any company has a downturn and is projected to be in the negative for a while, then a workforce reduction may be needed to ensure the survival of the company. If the company is on an uphill climb, then more employees may be needed to keep up with the demand from customers. Wall Street investment firms do supply capital to larger corporations for sustained services, growth, and also receive returns on their investments in the company. Wall Street should not have ANY say so in how a business should be run, EVER! They can call themselves part owners of the company all they want, but the very reason the UP is in the situation it's in now is because of those decisions made by the investors. If the investors are calling the shots, then why does any company need executives or a CEO? Yeah the CEO has to answer to the board and the investors, but how many of those board members have first hand knowledge of the business they're investing in? The comment of walk a mile in his shoes actually made me laugh. Here's a better idea! Get those executives and investors to walk the miles and miles in the shoes of the railroaders who are actually making them money. Get the CEO to work along side the people who make up this industry, instead of sitting in an office somewhere looking at a spreadsheet in an office. I could go on for a while about this. Vena is not at all what the UP needed. The men and women of the UP have the right to run their mouths about the CEO. They've already endured this guy before, and that's the very reason the UP got barbecued the federal government. So what I would do differently is to make sure my employees and customers are happy, FIRST! A company wouldn't exist without employees or customers. Pleasing my shareholders would be a very distant last! Companies aren't started by the investors. They're started by the people!
Let's hear how you would run UPRR.
There we go, that's what I was waiting for. Basement computer zombie. The only good you do is clock in and clock out and to you that's a hard days job.
Looks like we have a Vena su-k up in here.
No one wants to give an answer. That doesn't surprise me at all. I'm a union man, but at the same time I do not want to have the responsibility of running a company this size. Do I agree with everything, NO. But I'm just a worker. I'm not having to answer to shareholders or board members on how much money the company lost. Do the Upper management make too much money, yes. The only way to change things is to work your way up in the company. I sure don't want to do that. I want to see one of you basement computer zombies do it. Share with us how you could make a change, not just in your department bit across the board. Anyone can knock upper management down, but tell us what you would do differently? What changes would you make? Walk a mile in thier shoes.
It's funny all of you can run your mouths about the CEO, but no one wants to do the job. Just as we have a boss to answer to, he has a board and shareholders that he has to answer to. The old saying of walk a mile in his shoes goes for everyone.
Let's see you run a company this size. Tell me what you would do differently.
Yea find another job. Have to they don’t want employees
Soo many naysayers. No one knows what will happen.
You know that very well!
Good luck furlough former employees