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Former 2U/edX employee here, and our (university branded) bootcamps are an absolute joke. Here’s an inside look at how things operate on our end

Former 2U/edX employee here, and our (university branded) bootcamps are an absolute joke. Here’s an inside look at how things operate on our end & how screwed up things are.

I recently quit after working for 2U for over 2 years as an “admissions advisor”. What this job entails is morally wrong and I simply couldn’t take it anymore. These bootcamps are a borderline scam, and things are sour at every level.

First of all, my position was a straight up sales position. Nothing more. I didn’t know this before I was hired. I know nothing about Coding or Data Analytics, and thought I was getting into more of an academic advising type position. We were not legally allowed to make commission with this being education, but all of our metrics revolved around how many students we “enrolled” (how much money we made the company). You are put on a performance plan if you do not meet your monthly goals, as sales positions work.

These bootcamps have absolutely nothing to do with the universities they are advertised for. Many of you may have seen ads online for different tech bootcamps at Columbia, UC Berkeley, and plenty of other universities. The university slaps their name on the bootcamp, and it is created and taught by (highly under-qualified) instructors hired by 2U (often times recent bootcamp grads). The for-profit agreement between 2U/edX and these partner universities is extremely predatory and misleading in nature.

An average day at work for me consisted of 6-7 phone interviews with students. You start by making them feel like they are special and a good fit for the bootcamp. You then rush them through the admissions process before they can think over anything. Any training us advisors actually received were sales tactics. Virtually any student (that can pass a bogus 20 question problem-solving assessment) is qualified for the bootcamp. If it wasn’t already clear, money is absolutely the priority here and no one in the org cares at all about helping students in any way. 2U would enroll a rock with googly-eyes glued to it if it could cough up $11-15k or sign for a horrendous loan to cover it.

Like I said, I know nothing at all about Coding or Data Analytics, but from what I understand, the bootcamps do not prepare you to make a career change or get a job in tech whatsoever. I’ve heard that many students don’t even put the bootcamp on their resume because they know employers won’t take them seriously. Once every 2 weeks, we would receive an email with a hilariously short list of students who got a job in their field after completing one of our bootcamps. In over 2 years of enrolling about 10 students per month, I had 0 students of mine ever show up on that list.

The most successful managers/advisors at the company are just seasoned older sales people. They know nothing about the field you are interested in, and it’s their job to pretend they do. Please please please steer clear. 2U stock is in the absolute toilet, they haven’t made a profit in forever, so hopefully they go under soon. I could go on and on about this company but I think you all get the point.

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I no longer work for 2U and have no love for them whatsoever. BUT, as a former boot camp curriculum team member, I can tell you you're wrong that no one on the staff cares about the students. The curriculum designers who work on the course content care very much and do everything they can to try to make it a good learning experience for them. There are a lot of factors that go into students not getting jobs. Many students don't sign up to get new jobs, just to help out their existing business. Also, a lot of students never do the work they're advised by Career Services to do in order to help them get hired.

But to say everyone at the company is setting out to scam people is wrong. I know so many people in curriculum and in student support who care deeply. It's just that they're not given the time or resources to do what they really want to do.

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Post ID: @4msg+1oLloQ01

To give you a glimpse into the high volume of outbound OP is alluding to: if a sales rep steps away from their desk for more than 10 minutes, a manager will message them asking what they’re doing. Each qualifying call will take between 5 to 30 minutes.

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Post ID: @4bmh+1oLloQ01

Sounds like these may be crimes. Has anyone reported this to any State AGs (CA, NY, MD, MA) or the FTC?

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Post ID: @2fyj+1oLloQ01

FYI: https://www.republicreport.org/2023/feds-issue-warning-colleges-cant-silence-whistleblowers/

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Post ID: @2rbm+1oLloQ01

We definitely never had any partnerships with top companies. We are required to heavily sell our “careers services” team, which always sounded great but I’m sure was bogus. From what I understand, the “technical/behavioral interview practice” and “career coaching” we advertised are just borderline scammy inspiration seminars outside of class. We also have ZERO interaction with any of the instructors & rarely had any with the Student Success Advisor. We are trained to say that we have updated our curriculum thousands of times, but again I understand that it’s inferior and incomplete. We also reached a point where we are quite literally not allowed to actually send the curriculum to students before enrollment anymore lmao.

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Post ID: @1lqd+1oLloQ01

Perfectly expresses my total experience with this "organization."
As far as what they pay us, minus any commission ("because the law says tgat would be illegal"), no such boundary exists for "leadership (those not directly interfacing with selling to students). Therefore, the $lies the limit where salaries and bonuses are concerned. CORUPT!

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