Any news on what will happen to Labs and potential % of cuts? Esp public sector? Thanks!
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Lord I hope Joshua Burgin has a job still….
@ffa+1oBOLGpy - Dang, they’re really living in your head rent free. Hope you’ve found yourself in a happier spot.
Nice reality distortion field.
We will just wait and see what parts Hock thinks are profitable, as in holy cr-p profitable. Lots of stuff won’t make the cut.
Hock can milk the stagnant TAS customer base for years while supporting it with far far less employees. TAP will have a little window to show Daddy some real profit.
This story will play out with only the big boys remaining and the rest fired or sold off. Do some math on your product’s profits divided by 70billion and see if if you have a leading zero…
Luckily, under Hock, the profit talks and the bullsh-t walks.
I’ve got a popcorn of the month club.
Looking forward to the spectacle play out over the next 6-12-18 months.
"Being acquired by Hock is proof VMware doesn’t know how to grow a successful biz."
Your logic fails you. It's just proof that BC think they can make it a more profitable biz. Despite the Dell dividend debt, and the macro economic climate, VMware is still growing in line with its peers.
"you hear a large number and then think it is a successful company"
I didn't use the word success, you did. I was making the point that Tanzu revenue isn't a "rounding error on top of a round of error".
The point of Labs wasn't to become big consultancy or a standalone revenue and profit generator, which is why it was never merged into VMware core PS. The fact that you compare it to McKenzie means you're missing the point. The point of Labs was to help grow the Pivotal/Tanzu products. In that it was successful and has left a long line of happy expanding customers.
Pivotal was a long way from failing and was still growing revenue with a path to break even, with that growth continuing in VMware. The stock price dipped after it was announced that growth would be slower than expected. Michael Dell chose to cash out to pay his debts and VMware needed a route into cloud native.
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Being acquired by Hock is proof VMware doesn’t know how to grow a successful biz.
Pivotal is well known be a failure. The parents saved them from a total meltdown. Comments like this are such BS, you hear a large number and then think it is a successful company. It wasn’t. It got bailed out.
Of the menagerie of stuff that was thrown together to be Pivotal, consulting via pivotal labs, now Tanzu labs, never moved the needle for revenue. It is not McKenzie consulting - it is hippie agile consulting.
I'm not going to share specifics on here, but 4 years ago pivotal was a roughly $700m business and has grown significantly since acquisition.
Put your handbag away and take a deep breath. You clearly have no idea about the numbers your commenting on or how to grow a subscription business.
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Enjoy trying to find a new guest host to play ping ping.
CLAP!
Your revenue is a rounding error on top of a round of error for VMware, let alone BC
Go back to Rob Mee and the cult of extreme agile.
Now you've gotten that off your chest and shared your hatred for Labs, how about the data. Customers who have install services by core PS show significantly less growth vs customers who worked with Tanzu Labs, hence why core PS Tanzu installs aren't sold anymore.
Yes, Labs are opinionated and refuse to work with project managers, instead they push product management and platform engineering, the practices followed by successful tech companies. If you think those things are "wrong" and old fashioned, then you have some learning to do.
No, there is no news. Everyone here is guessing.
What Tanzu Labs does isn’t what one would traditionally call Professional Services at Broadcom/VMware.
It is the left over detritus from “Pivotal Labs” . They bang a gong ,clap hands, and tell customers they can solve their problems like it’s 1999 and the birth of agile. Everything you do is wrong, they are right, and you need to pair program and be spoken down to all day.
What a bunch of áss clowns. Bitterness is real - they deserved to be fired ages ago for incompetence but it is absolutely impossible to get fired at VMware for that, hence the bloat and having Hock the bagman come in an clean house.
I am an ex-Tanzu person. When I joined VMware, I was so excited because it's a great company. To get a job at VMware felt monumental to me. Working with all these Pivotal people was a nightmare. They thought they were still at Pivotal and were a huge clique. They used phrases like "do it the Pivotal way". They congratulated themselves on Slack when they celebrated their Pivotal anniversaries at VMware. They were told to stop because they were making the non-Pivotal people feel awkward. They never stopped and didn't care. There was not a lot of work for me at Tanzu. There was not a lot of work for anyone at Tanzu. I had engineers who take my work and do it because they didn't know their own. Like, they did not know how to be engineers. How did they get to VMware? Anyway, we had these awful team meetings on Zoom. The Pivotal people told themselves how great they were (they did nothing great), while the rest of us just watched. So many smart, hard working people left Tanzu-Pivotal within months, sometimes weeks of arriving. All that to say, Hock have your way with Tanzu-Pivotal and run them into the ground. They are not money makers. They are good ole-boys (and gals). You can call me bitter, like I see in other posts and that's fine. I'm really not. What I am is waiting to watch them get kicked to the curb.
Some of these comments are re--rded. Go to LinkedIn. You can see BC does in fact have professional services…from consultants and architects all the way up to executive leadership in PS. Perhaps why stepanski was given the boot.
what the he-l is Tanzu labs?
Unless it makes a grillion dollars a year its toast
Depends on the gov contracts on the books already I would guess. They may outsource labs if it's good for the shareholders. You'll find out soon enough
Just like the million of similar posts, there is no news. Only speculation. You will discover your fate in one month like everyone else.
My speculation is that Broadcom doesn't do consulting in house, the use partners. So not a good fit.