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Meta knowingly discriminating against US workers and hiring H1Bs

The U.S. Department of Justice and the U.S. Department of Labor today announced separate settlement agreements with Facebook regarding its use of the permanent labor certification program (PERM). The Justice Department’s settlement resolves its claims that Facebook routinely refused to recruit, consider or hire U.S. workers, a group that includes U.S. citizens, U.S. nationals, asylees, refugees and lawful permanent residents, for positions it had reserved for temporary visa holders in connection with the PERM process. Additionally, the Labor Department’s settlement resolves issues it separately identified through audit examinations of Facebook’s recruitment activities related to its PERM applications filed with the Employment and Training Administration’s Office of Foreign Labor Certification (OFLC).

In December 2020, the Justice Department filed a lawsuit against Facebook, alleging that from at least Jan. 1, 2018, until at least Sept. 18, 2019, Facebook routinely reserved jobs for temporary visa holders through the PERM process. Specifically, the lawsuit alleged that, in contrast to its standard recruitment practices, Facebook used recruiting methods designed to deter U.S. workers from applying to certain positions, such as requiring applications to be submitted by mail only; refused to consider U.S. workers who applied to the positions; and hired only temporary visa holders. According to the lawsuit, Facebook’s hiring process for these positions intentionally discriminated against U.S. workers because of their citizenship or immigration status, in violation of the anti-discrimination provision of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA). The INA generally prohibits employers from discriminating against workers because of their citizenship or immigration status.

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-labor-departments-reach-settlements-facebook-resolving-claims-discrimination-against

P.S. This is a common practice that Google and Microsoft engage in.

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Post ID: @OP+1mhm2x1m

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If you don't find cheap worker, the work will be moving whereas cheaper , h1b since inception made for not to save american , it is to save american economy

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Post ID: @avws+1mhm2x1m

Meta only hire h1bs as a last resort when no Americans apply.

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Post ID: @5qxp+1mhm2x1m

The offshore "talent" that tech companies hire is not as talented as local workers. Most of the workers are from India, which are among the worst of workers. If you've worked with them, you'll find that they are not technically competent, cannot work independently, and only work longer hours because of a combination of having to work with onshore teams and looking busy in front of their bosses.

You can verify this yourself by looking at innovation coming out of India. India has yet to make a tech company comparable to the scale of what's in China, a country with comparable talent. Most of the companies from there are slave labor tech shops. Indians will point out that people of Indian origin are running many large tech companies in the U.S. However, they have yet to found a tech company at any level. They only take over established companies where their role is to keep shop.

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Post ID: @2dkw+1mhm2x1m

Of course. They are cheaper. At the end of the day, everything is about money.

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Post ID: @1glv+1mhm2x1m
Yes, there's a great reason for all this. Offshore talent is better educated, more capable and way more motivated than anyone/anything raised in the failing US education system. >Q: Who needs self-entitled, mediocre US tech workers?
A: Nobody, especially if the goal is to win in the market

The truth hurts if you're an American tech worker. You're disposable, replaceable and you're not valuable.

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Post ID: @1jwu+1mhm2x1m

Yes, there's a great reason for all this. Offshore talent is better educated, more capable and way more motivated than anyone/anything raised in the failing US education system. Q: Who needs self-entitled, mediocre US tech workers?
A: Nobody, especially if the goal is to win in the market

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Post ID: @1kwh+1mhm2x1m

"H1bs don’t get paid less than a local worker. That’s a real misinformation that is being spreading around. It costs the company more to hire a h1b.

H1b program is part of the progressive politics propaganda and it’s no wonder that Facebook is a leader in the implementation of this propaganda. It’s a company that’s as far left as a corporation can get"

That's what they want you to believe, and it looks like it is working. H1Bs increase the supply of labor, meaning that Americans will have less bargaining power over their salaries and also fewer opportunties.

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Post ID: @1dgz+1mhm2x1m

That's the cost of doing business. Whatever savings they got by hiring a H1B will be outweighed by whatever penalty they get. Government got something out of it too in terms of tax money. The fed/corp complex that created this law knew this would happen.

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