Thread regarding Edward Jones layoffs

@hc exactly. It’s big boomer loser energy in here claiming that anyone who’s HBA with medical accommodations will be targeted and that we all only have “anxiety” to stay at home. Trust me, if it meant giving up my HBA status to live a “normal” life, I would.

@hc true. great shield if you know how to use it. make yourself a difficult target and create leverage

those doubting real hba depression and anxiety and blessed to not have experienced. worse than many physical issues when real

If you 'claim' that you have anxiety issues, but don't, that's medical fraud. If you have a medical professional that will sign off on the accommodation form knowing that you don't have an actual anxiety disorder, they may be complicit in helping you commit fraud.

Don't minimize the condition that some of us actually have by 'claiming' you also have it, Those actions erode the needs of people that actually need the accommodation and just don't want to return to the office because ELT svcks b@lls.

And, I'm confused about the folks here stating that anyone with a documented accommodation has a target on their back... it's protected under the ADA. If an employer terminates someone because of ELTs desire to make people miserable and live in their cubicle for no less than 8 hours per day with zero work/life balance, but has an accepted ADA remote work accommodation, then they'll be in for a world of hurt.

Even if an employer makes a run around the accommodation, say for performance reasons yet you've never had performance issues, now you might be looking at wrongful termination. So, I would suggest that anyone with an existing accommodation print out all prior trimester and annual reviews to establish your performance history. If, all of a sudden, you're on a PIP and potentially looking at termination because you "need improvement" despite having no history, let them fire you. Then, use your past reviews and consult an employment attorney to demonstrate that you've never had performance issues but were terminated on those grounds while you had an accepted ADA accommodation in place.

Not that I've thought this through or anything...

As a person with a documented health issue, I'm surprised by the new accommodation form. There are additional hoops and hurdles from the previous iterations and I knew it was because of RTO.

Working from home isn't the only accommodation. The firm can provide new equipment, bigger chairs, free feminine products, a shortened work day for flares, flexibility with sick leave or a nap space... So, don't be surprised.

@e1 oh agreed, that’s why I’m saying, “yes but..” it’s not a catch all to get you those 5 days at home permanently.

@dz the problem is that mental health is becoming a catch all reason to work from home. It’s just the truth. HR and ELT know that’s the case and will be re reviewing these cases to eliminate many of these exaggerated claims. Those who have true anxiety will be punished thanks to those who don’t. This goes for more than anxiety, mental health wise.

All I’m saying is be prepared. If you’re naive to the fact that ELT isn’t aware they DON’T have to provide remote work as an accommodation for mental health, there are many other accommodations they can offer (flexible schedule, private office, etc), they have a back up legally to make you come into the office. And lawyers are on hand ready to ensure their decision to make HBAs within range, medically, return to the office.

And the rest of HBAs will most likely have no job as of 2028 as well… BET.

Yes but you have to have an anxiety disorder not just have “anxiety”. I am an HBA because I have a physical condition that prevents me from coming into the office consistently, but part of my HBA accommodation form, I also noted how coming into the office w my physical limitations would impact my previously documented mental health conditions. So while you can, you have to actually have a mental health condition that’s documented by a doctor, you can’t just have anxiety one day and say you have to stay home 5 days a week. Most dr’s will at most say your accommodation for mental health solely allows you to remote work when necessary (ex: I need to work from home on Tuesday because my depression is bad making it hard to get ready for work). Mental health isn’t this “catch all” some of these boomers are making it sound for being an HBA.

Do it if it’s genuine and will help you. We have targets on us already. Documented ADA paperwork is better protection than nothing and will them work harder to remove you.

@d7 Yes ADA does recognize anxiety. ADA does not require employers to allow only remote work as the only option.

There are plenty of options the ADA offers employers to adhere to. Which su-ks, because EDJ WILL be reviewing these claims and adhere to the options that mean in office work that they can accommodate instead.

Don’t be naive, it’s coming. You’ll be re reviewed for all medical conditions, not just anxiety. And they will go to the least amount of accommodations ADA requires - because they can.

https://www.dol.gov/agencies/odep/program-areas/mental-health/maximizing-productivity-accommodations-for-employees-with-psychiatric-disabilities

Claiming anxiety and actually having it are two different things. Yes, anxiety is a medical condition and covered by ADA.

I am not a lawyer, but I would say if it's not a documented disability covered by the ADA, even if they grant it, you will be moved to the top of the stack next round of layoffs.

@az this is true. You can do remote for anxiety or anything else but it will put a target on your back. Don’t do it.

You can to buy some time, but you are also putting a target on your back. These ghouls are off their rockers right now. I sense that "things" are behind schedule and the worker bees are not complying as blindly as they hoped. ELT continues to fumble and fail with everything they touch and everyone sees it. The mask has totally dropped and we now have sources in the media getting the inside information fed to them. We knew the august layoff dates via KSDK before amplify could post if don't believe me. PP has made many enemies and ELT wants to pretend the ship doesnt have a giant effing hole in it.

SM will be pushing for anyone that has anxiety or depression as accommodations to return to office and continue to validate and "prove it", so be mindful of that.

You might get some temporary approval and reprieve, but I wouldn't count on it sticking long term. Just being realistic.

Remember, they hate you, they hate us, deep down they are miserable human beings and want everyone else to suffer with them.

@a7 updating.

You can, but it depends on what your doctor completes on the form and how long you have had anxiety documented in your medical records and if you worked in the office with anxiety prior.

Accommodation for anxiety DONT have to be remote. And, I don’t see EDJ approving any new ones and SOON will be cancelling all old because - again- ADA says an employer does not have to approve remote for anxiety. HR told me that when I submitted my forms a re review will come. I’m approved for now.

With that said. Try it and see. But expect it to be reviewed in the next 1.5 years and ended, for all medically remote workers and regular HBA. There won’t be any by 2028. You’re in the office or you don’t have a job.

You can, but it depends on what your doctor completes on the form and how long you have had anxiety documented in your medical records and if you worked in the office with anxiety prior.

Accommodation for anxiety have to be remote. And, I don’t see EDJ approving any new ones and cancelling all old because - again- ADA says an employer does not have to approve remote for anxiety. HR told me that when I submitted my forms. I’m approved for now.

With that said. Try it and see. But expect it to be reviewed in the next 1.5 years and ended, for all medically remote workers and regular HBA. There won’t be any by 2028. You’re in the office or you don’t have a job.