Thread regarding Cengage layoffs

How long do we think this new model will last?

Seems to be no rhyme or reason for who was placed where and the decisions that were made. What the Fu*k?


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@ej MH hits all-time low - $11.16 - Layouts are coming... With a stock that is plummeting at record pace, enjoy your short time that at that sinking ship.

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Post ID: @qc+1kqf5ew2q

I think all of YOU should just QUIT... MH said it on the Town Hall a few years ago, if you don't like it here LEAVE.

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Post ID: @mx+1kqf5ew2q

@jg no they hired a consulting firm who ran a bunch of analytics on performance, geography, pay, etc. SW made it clear last fall what they deem as “low performers” would be gone.

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Post ID: @kw+1kqf5ew2q

Pretty sure last year’s layoffs were decided upon by AI when we went vertical. This year’s probably the same. Why were some people offered new roles (more responsibilities no extra pay), some were made to compete for their current role, and others who keep the wheels turning laid off completely

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@eb (Internal employees only) TownHall recording: https://cengageo365.sharepoint.com/sites/connect/_layouts/15/stream.aspx?id=%2Fsites%2Fconnect%2FCorporate%20Videos%2FBusiness%20Segments%2FHigher%20Education%2FHED%2Fhed%2Dna%2Dsales%2Dtown%2Dhall%2D2026%2Emp4&nav=eyJyZWZlcnJhbEluZm8iOnsicmVmZXJyYWxBcHAiOiJTdHJlYW1XZWJBcHAiLCJyZWZlcnJhbFZpZXciOiJTaGFyZURpYWxvZy1MaW5rIiwicmVmZXJyYWxBcHBQbGF0Zm9ybSI6IldlYiIsInJlZmVycmFsTW9kZSI6InZpZXcifX0%3D&referrer=StreamWebApp%2EWeb&referrerScenario=AddressBarCopied%2Eview%2Ef8a5bf0c%2De9ad%2D4101%2Dae11%2D869178aa5153

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Post ID: @f0+1kqf5ew2q

@eb um....a lot of "We are working on thr specifics?"

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Post ID: @es+1kqf5ew2q

@az things look a he-l of a lot less bleak now that I'm at McGraw.

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Post ID: @ej+1kqf5ew2q

@c6 Could someone share the highlights (or lowlights??) of the town hall for those of us who weren't invited?

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Post ID: @eb+1kqf5ew2q

It’s going to work THIS time guys! This is the right sales model! L O L

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Post ID: @cv+1kqf5ew2q

"Didn’t they used to have a model like this? Where reps weren’t generalists?"

Oh lord, yes. We used to have micro territories and several reps were assigned to each key account. Hardside, Softside, Business & IT, and then another inside rep or two to cover everything else. And several useless management layers overseeing all of that, lol. This was more than a decade ago now. Times were even better before that. The core companies that were eventually combined to form Thompson/Cengage were tops in their fields, and the Titanic rode those waves for a good couple of decades, now.

Today? Well, we all know the Titanic story ended. Grab a life vest and carry on!

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Post ID: @cp+1kqf5ew2q

This place makes me want to kms

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Post ID: @ck+1kqf5ew2q

@c6 many of us in higher Ed weren’t even included in that town hall so we have to get intel from coworkers who were. We are trying to piece it altogether since there is so much obfuscation. Really ridiculous. I’m sure it was a colossal s-show!

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Post ID: @ce+1kqf5ew2q

After that 💩 show of a town hall I wish I was offered a severance package.

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Post ID: @c6+1kqf5ew2q

@bd literally everywhere.

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Post ID: @br+1kqf5ew2q

@ba Yes- they have done this over and over and over again.

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Post ID: @bq+1kqf5ew2q

@az where?

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Post ID: @bd+1kqf5ew2q

Didn’t they used to have a model like this? Where reps weren’t generalists?

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Post ID: @ba+1kqf5ew2q

@ay this is how inside reps have always functioned. You’ll be ok

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Post ID: @b0+1kqf5ew2q

@av life goes on, they deal with the mess, clean up what they can. That said, higher ed publishing is dying, and the overall future is bleak no matter where you're at.

Folks have to make the decision that makes the most sense for them, but leaving Cengage opens you up to much higher pay and much more meaningful work elsewhere.

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Post ID: @az+1kqf5ew2q

Sales reps with massive territories now. But, let’s take away the fleet vehicles so our books look more profitable.

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Post ID: @ay+1kqf5ew2q

OMG. Current employee here. Myself and another coworker got on the phone this morning to read the announcement sent yesterday and had to laugh (even though it's not funny). Just a ridiculous communique-word salad-blather-nonsense bunch of words. No rhyme or reason. Hanging on as I make other plans. Under no illusions. Not taking it personally. Will read that book about PE that was recommended on this site in one of the posts. Feeling bad for the excellent colleagues getting the axe but knowing it has no reflection on them. Will get out in time. Not at all the company it was. Lousy, really lousy Sr. Management. They should be embarrassed. I know there is life after this place and I can't wait to embrace it.

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Post ID: @ax+1kqf5ew2q

@aq "After July, leadership will exit with huge pay outs and move on to the next thing."

What will happen to the people that are still employed at Cengage at that time?

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Post ID: @av+1kqf5ew2q

Nothing matters from now until the IPO coming end of June/beginning of July. This “layoff” (I.e. eliminating positions without explicitly laying some people off, forcing them to apply to jobs that don’t really exist) pads the company from making a layoff announcement pre IPO and makes the balance sheet look better before going public - less overhead, more profits.

After July, leadership will exit with huge pay outs and move on to the next thing.

Remember, cengage isn’t in the business of selling learning materials, they’re just a finalization tool for PE and other firms.

In 5-7 yrs they will bankrupt (again) and begin the process all over (again).

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Post ID: @aq+1kqf5ew2q

Until the next reorg so 12 months?

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Post ID: @an+1kqf5ew2q

Let me tell you about my extensive travels where I purchased outrageously expensive belts, it’s true.

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Post ID: @am+1kqf5ew2q

@ag yes. They had so many focus groups with the Gale group to try to learn how they could integrate Gale and Cengage- they didn't listen to one thing that Gale said and did exactly what they were told wouldn't work and not to do- they do not listen.

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Post ID: @ah+1kqf5ew2q

It's complete chaos. They are using the CenForce to determine everything. Perhaps flipping coins and dart board shooting. Unlike this prestigious group of ex-employees, they are all lost whereas this group has it together.

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Post ID: @ag+1kqf5ew2q

Just as long as the million others they have done. 12 months. Definition of insanity.

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Post ID: @ab+1kqf5ew2q

Classic Cengage.

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