Dell is the biggest offender of age discrimination in the industry. Everyone currently being laid off is over 40. Does anyone know someone currently being laid off who is under 40? I sure don't. Fu-K Dell!!
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@t0 I call BS on this one.
@t0 You're either related to someone high up in tbe company or are performing off the books favors for someone high up in the company.
@qz don't know what to tell you, over 50, promoted twice in the last 5 years, more than $300k salary and RSUs all along the way. Maybe you weren't as valuable as you thought?
@b9 Rubbish, I was laid off last year age 54, I had a ton of certifications, completed all the AI stuff they were peddling, did all the sec certs available to our group even those not required, was told by my peers that I was the one they looked up to for debugging complex issues & leadership, always a team player and still got the WFR. Like others stated, I was happy to take the payout and say nothing.
@b9 you owe your loyalty to the person who controls your paycheck. Being set in your ways is certain to get you ejected. Being adaptable to new management, leadership styles and new philosophies is what gets you to the retirement line at the time you want/need to retire.
@gw I tried getting axed as an I9 for about 6 years until I had enough 401k and 401k Roth money to say sc--w it and then I just left on my own at 62. I had been an I9 for 15 years at EMC/Dell and never wanted to be an I10.
I've been at Dell for 7 years now and since I started, there has been regular mass layoffs every single spring and fall. My org is almost never hit, not to mention Fed in general is rarely hit... but, I work on the corp side a lot as well and will say that MOST of the people who have been let go - that I know of - were long time employees, over 45/50 and i9+
Those who weren't any of those, were just poor performers and/or difficult to work with.
Generally speaking, Dell tends to target the 50+ crowd, long time employees, high salaried and high level IC's before they go to the normies - below an i9 or i8 at the very minimum. But more often than not it seems like the older age crowd is axed first.
I will respectfully chime in and say I was let go end of March early February. Part of that Q1 wave. 25 years old been at Dell since out of school.
However, it was the biggest blessing in disguise and a wake up call I needed. Very easy to fall into content complacency quickly at a place like Dell and that’s where I was.
The night and day difference with my new company is laughable and something only people who have seen both sides could probably appreciate
They have to layoff the over 40 crowd since most of not all under 40 are smart enough to getva better job
@aj Age shouldn’t matter. It’s skill and productivity. People calling for older people to retire and let someone younger have a turn don’t understand business.
Of course there is age discrimination, I was hired over 40 and had to work my butt off to get assigned to interesting products while people in their late 20s and early 30s were assigned without asking.
There is also s-x discrimination, but that’s another topic.
@cf 100% corrrct. The system is fu-king rigged against the employee. Employment attorneys won't EVER go up against Dell and they sure as he-l won't take on any cases they know they may not win.
The legal system in America does NOT work for the common man. It's rigged against him..
Anyone who is layed off and gets severance renouncees their rights when they sign the NDA to get the $$$, so in theory Dell didn't descrimnate on the basis of age.
The alternative is an EEOC complaint (required before bringing suit with a lawyer), which could take 12 to 24 months before EEOC tells you they won't pursue your case and you are free to sue in court. Almost no lawyer takes that case on contingeny. Most want a fee to files the case, and will push for settlement as quickly as possible.
Me? I took the $$$, cuz the system is rigged, but the severance bought my silence.
Yes strong age bias. None below the age of 25 got fired.
As someone over 50, I believe this to be false. The real issue is that most people over 40/50 are set in their ways, reluctant to change and believe that skills they were successful with for years still apply and that is the fault. Many people over 40 that I know don't pursue AI education, certifications or push to learn new skills. Those are the ones I have seen be let go.
@b2 Fingers crossed my friend...
@a7 OH. It ain't over. Wait until May.
@aj how do you think Dell got so big capitol wise? It was listening to those you hold in disdain.
Many of the people working at Dell today weren’t born when the company started.
There are tons of 62+ people. Hard to generalize, but certainly some of them have been in senior leadership roles for many years, have old ways to work and hinder growth of company (but amazing A lickers). They should retire and let people in 40-60 yr age stay employed. Rather they fire people in this age group to save their A.
I'm well over 40, full remote and still here. What are they waiting for? Put me out of my misery already.