Has anyone spoken to their manager about the rule that we have to be in the office 8 am to 5 pm! My wife and I are trying ti figure out how to do school drop off and pick up without incurring the expense or before and after programs.
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@144 All valid points. With that said, think of the collaboration opportunities you will now have sitting in a communal corporate pod located at home office? The culture we will create is something you cannot put a price tag on! The background noise, the micro management vibes, the utter distrust and hatred ELT has for us will make us want to give 110%! We need everyone to have a mindset shift, especially while sitting in traffic as your kids wait at school to be picked up. I know this is rough for most families, but the folks in india would never complain as much as ya'll do, and that is why we love their cheap labor.
@rz it should be criminal for them to make that amount of money compared to the people who actually do the work. Special place in he** for them.
I think one of the things that p*sses me off the most is that I am paid on salary, meaning that I am being paid for a result, not for my time. If I am to be mandated that I am in a chair (at home or in office) from 8-5 or a minimum of 8 hours per day, then I expect to be compensated for my time, not for my results.
The minimum of 8 hours of online active (40 hours/week) time will really translate to 42.5-45 hours/week if not more. But, all us folks on salary will just lose the difference any time we aren't able to log off after precisely 8 hours. The escalated calls, the critical issues, the projects that need just that extra half hour today that would have historically given me the flexibility to log off a half hour early tomorrow. All gone because ELT hates everyone that does the work.
At my salary, overtime work would be worth more than $80/hour. That is what MY personal time is worth to me, EDJ and ELT don't give a d*mn about that though. The 2.5-5 hours a week beyond my standard 40 SHOULD be worth an extra $400-$800 each paycheck. But that will never happen.
So guess what, this company (after having given them nearly 20 years of my life) will get EXACTLY 40 hours a week from me. No more taking calls 10 minutes before the end of my day. No more staying even a little late to finish things. I do not care anymore. I don't.
If the ELT geniuses are going to mandate that I work no less than 8 hours a day, I will, under no circumstance, give them more than 8 hours a day. They can all go to h*ll.
@wm 100% this. The RTO june 1st and strict policy attached to it will be a freaking disaster for productivity and morale. We are already seeing it. It is the most divided and polarized I've ever seen home office since I started in 2005. It's either one of 2 things. 1.) These people are d-mber than a bag of bricks with and have the collective iq of a beer can. 2.) They know this will be a disaster and they know it will make us miserable. Why? They need us to quit, simple as that. They hate us and we are clogging up the balance sheet. They hate our spouses, hate our kids, hate that we don't worship money like them, hate that we refuse to drink their re--rded kool aid talking points, hate that most of us have not quit after 3 days in office, hate that we have free speech online with other edj anons and hate that they need us more than we need them. They are miserable souless parasites. Absolute human sc-m.
I've been in my department since 2015 and have been allowed a lot of autonomy since then. Our department's motto was, "we're professionals, just make sure your work gets done, and stay on top of things. It doesn't matter when you start and stop". I've always worked 5:30am to 2:30-3:00ish. Even during WFH, I was awake, and working away until a good stopping point. Even lasted until 4 a lot. I built an entire personal life around this. It would be extremely frustrating to shift to 8-5.
@w0 The big brain energy of ELT at work here. Make local employees miserable and not want to work for you, while simultaneously trying to hire local employees over HBA ones.
Sort of tells you they want the people they can abuse to stay and those that they can't leave doesn't it? In their room temp IQ minds, if they keep their boots on throats long enough... most of those that remain will either be subservient, scared, or lick aforementioned boots.
This is inept, weak leadership.
@kw Ummm, this goes for HBA all over, not just St Louis & Tempe. We have HBA all over America. They all should adhere to the same standards as St Louis & Tempe HBA within the zip code too. If you’re gonna make some do it, all have to, which is why I see HBA going away completely by 2028, so they don’t have to worry about kackling Karen telling on flaky Fran because Fran go to pick up her kids and Karen didn’t.
ELT is out of touch. Micromanaging employees will slowly encourage talent to leave Edward Jones. There are many studies on this topic.
@ef they make a LOT more than 1M:
2025 10-K just published on SEC.gov. See for yourself, page 82 for executive compensation.
PP - $28M
AM - $21M
KC - $22M
DC - $19M
KJ - $21M
FL - $21M
It would also be helpful to understand how this will be handled for home-based associates in St. Louis and Tempe, specifically around expectations and flexibility.
In response to the question about picking kids up, I assume home-based associates have some ability to step away during the workday, so clarity on how that is applied consistently would be helpful.
Separately, there’s also a broader question around home-based roles in these markets outside of medical accommodations, given that office locations were known at the time of application.
From a practical standpoint, home-based roles do appear to offer greater flexibility, so alignment on expectations across groups would be important.
So sad we even have to ask things like this. What has it come to? Sorry you have to even think about this. ELT is disgusting.
Either they are so old and out of touch that they don’t have young kids anymore. Or hey, maybe they can pay their nanny extra to pick up and drop off their kids. Must be nice to make 1M+. How can thy even relate to us average people?
@b4 I haven't heard 8-5 either or any set times. My TL is pi---d about the whole thing but also knows the director and GP above our area is obsessed with head count in the cubicals, so their hands are tied for the whole "8 hrs worked in a cube." It's just so stupid and sinister when you step back and look at how and why
this is being done. We are being collectively punished for simply existing on the payroll.
@OP , I haven't heard a thing about 8-5. Why would they do this? I enjoy my flex hours as long as I do 8 hrs.
We were told by our director that we have to "follow company policy" and therefore our a-s needs to be in a cube 8hrs a day. A lot of people are already planning on working the crazy early shifts like 530-200 or 6-230. There has been proactive push back on this as well from higher ups due to market close being at 3:00 CT. ELT has made it very obvious that they are at war with us, hate our families, and need us to be angry enough to quit.
it's not 1983 anymore... there should be no need for a rigid 8-5 M-F schedule. ELT needs to back off this utterly misguidance and atrocious "we own you, you will do as we say" mindset.
There is no empirical data that would suggest that this level of micromanagement will to anything more than p*ss off people. Then again, that's the idea... make as many people as upset as possible so they just quit. No severance needed, no need to structure layoffs to avoid DOL WARN notice filing, and those at the top just keep getting richer while those of us on the ground actually doing the work continue to get the shaft because the job market su-ks.