Thread regarding Intel Corp. layoffs

Things will not improve

Things can't improve for one simple reason. It's getting harder and harder to find good talent these days. Add to that the fact we're constantly going through layoffs, and that becomes almost impossible. As a result, what we have at Intel after several years of layoffs and loss of talent is the worst management possible. The management that has zero incentive to improve, since they're raking it in for doing a lousy job - something they wouldn't be able to do if there was anybody remotely competent among them. Which means we're stuck with no way out.

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"Key jobs go unstaffed or are closed because qualified candidates that check the diversity boxes can’t be found (or lured from elsewhere" - lmao. I don't think intel has the luxury of saying no to a qualified candidate based on skin color anymore. If there is a qualified white or poc from MIT or Stanford willing to join this sinking ship, they are jumping on this opportunity hook line and sinker.

"Some key jobs are staffed with less-than-optimally qualified candidates primarily or solely because they check the diversity boxes" - generic talking point. I had an Asian lady and a young white kid (rcg) both put on pip because of poor performance and both of them no longer work here. They are a little patient and handholding at the beginning of your career, but after a year or so, you own your career. Not saying that its intrinsically is a good thing, but lots of sharks floating in these waters looking for opportunities to take you out and if you are caught slipping, you will get chewed out (melanin deprived or not).

"Because they see what’s taking place, high quality employees in key positions that don’t check the diversity boxes leave" - lol, plenty of reasons to leave intel. If you are competent enough to leave and find a better jon elsewhere, you simply would. Diversity has nothing to do with it. I am an ex intel person myself of Asian persuasion and I left them as well because of better opportunities.

I will also like to add as a foreigner when I was applying to jobs at Intel, you will frequently come across job postings that were reserved for US persons only i.e you had to be a native to be even considered for the job. So I would actually wager that it's way easier to get in if you are an American. Oh, but you went to liberal arts college to study about social justice while all the Asian kids are crushing it in science and math in college? Tough luck snowflake. Now get back to work.

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Post ID: @8xat+1kn0jgN9

To address the previous post, DEI has toxic effects even when the statistical impact on employee demographics is minimal:

  • Key jobs go unstaffed or are closed because qualified candidates that check the diversity boxes can’t be found (or lured from elsewhere)
  • Some key jobs are staffed with less-than-optimally qualified candidates primarily or solely because they check the diversity boxes
  • Because they see what’s taking place, high quality employees in key positions that don’t check the diversity boxes leave

All of these impact the quality of the workforce. And it should be pointed out that the same negative impact on quality would occur if company policies favored white people in the way they favor people that meet the diversity requirements now. Pigeon-holing your employee candidate pool unavoidably impacts productivity, regardless of who inhabits the pigeon holes.

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Post ID: @2ofw+1kn0jgN9

https://www.intel.in/content/www/in/en/diversity/diversity-at-intel.html shows that 44.1 percent of all employees are melanin deprived followed by sloping eyes at 36 percent. This is going to devolve into another nasty identity politics discussion but puzzle me this : if the melanin deprived who work here were actually good and smart, wouldn't the company already be flying high and crushing it? Elt is actually like 89 percent melanin deprived- disproportionately cream cheese in fact ! Lots of fox News watchers in these comments section - if you actually worked hard and qualified yourself to be of some value to society at large, you wouldn't be here complaining about dei efforts destroying the company. People on the right love to call so called libs as being snowflakes - who is being a whiny snowflake now? Why is a cream cheese majority company still struggling to beat slope eyed companies?

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Post ID: @1iuk+1kn0jgN9

The good talent has no interest to Easter their life and career at Intel, duh

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Post ID: @1yyz+1kn0jgN9

There is good talent available to hire. Intel doesn't hire them because they are too expensive, are they are not diverse.

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Post ID: @hri+1kn0jgN9

When the horses at the front have gone mad and the coach is heading for a cliff, are you going to stay onboard or jump? even if it means you lose your valuables/luggage?

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Post ID: @hpv+1kn0jgN9

I will say the best talent even if used incorrectly will also fail.

Current IDM and OFzs is a broken strategy. Even with the best talent working togather as a team with all the money it needs will still fail.

But Intel situation is far worse as design, automation and fab talent are inferior to the competitors. What is more amazing the senior leadership are all new and are so disconnected to both the talent and morale gap, forget the fact theu are so fanatically delusional they can’t see all the signs of futility and failure, a FUBAR

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Post ID: @qsi+1kn0jgN9

“ It's getting harder and harder…”

That’s what she said!

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Post ID: @mhw+1kn0jgN9

Couldn't agree more, all the way down to middle management levels.

This thing of hiring people based purely on degree level is destroying the Eng distribution too.
Mechanical engineers that don't know how to set a torque on a rachet are what Intel are hiring nowadays.

Keyboard pretengineers..
The floor techs run rings around them on the actual process machine then have to leave decisions for hours waiting on them to make a call.

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