Thread regarding Cisco Systems Inc. layoffs

What Cisco (and other companies) do not want you to realize

The abuse, pressure and threats of layoffs are intended to keep you locked into a victim mentality.

They don't want you to realize that in most cases, software services you work on can now be vide-coded and released as competition or simply given away. A lot of this stuff just implements well-known standards or is otherwise not protected through IP law or non-competes. You are still locked into a mindset that because this software was hard to produce five years ago, it is hard to produce now. It isn't.

If you were to suggest Codex or Claude vibe-rewriting bitrotted Cisco tech-debt code, most of your coworkers would sneer and ignore you, and management would put you on "a list". But right now, this is actually something that can be done. If it can be done now, what will the world be like in six months, a year?

Cisco wants you to think using AI is only something you can do in service to them, not yourself.

Get ready, other people in this world are not locked in to your victim psychology.


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@h0

I don't see how you train AI to untangle and repair enough of the technical debt to really move forward

"You" don't. That's what Anthropic and OpenAI do.

I've already watched Codex trivially untangle issues that senior folks who have been on a project for over a decade have never caught. This isn't hypothetical anymore, it already happened.

No company is going to ignore a technology that compresses weeks or even months of work into minutes. Your snide comments will not protect you. I still see so many crusty folks who get triggered by AI at Cisco, some even threatening to leave if they are required to use it. Eventually these people will hear "request granted!" and they will be done in this industry.

No different in the 1920s, I am sure there were people who crapped on the assembly line or inventory management.

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Post ID: @qq+1kjcj50cr

Given the volume of bugs Cisco has along with the inconsistencies across not only branches but whole operating systems, I don't see how you train AI to untangle and repair enough of the technical debt to really move forward. Cisco's "engineers" have failed to deal with any of this over more than 40 years and AI still doesn't have an actual sense of understanding.

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Post ID: @h0+1kjcj50cr

Leave. Pretty simple. csco won't change for some little software or keyboard monkey but you can keep on thinking you have some type of moral high ground that is going to disrupt everything. I agree with the person that added "you must be a si--y".

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Post ID: @fd+1kjcj50cr

@a2 none of them can be replaced by llms.

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Post ID: @e8+1kjcj50cr

Left Crapsco a year ago. Couldn’t believe how far the place had gone down hill. Never seen so much utter BS in my life led by clueless donkeys like CR and G2. Utterly fu--ing useless.

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Post ID: @cj+1kjcj50cr

They surely light up your tail on fire to keep you worried and guessing.

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Post ID: @c3+1kjcj50cr

So you're saying Cisco is a software company?

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Post ID: @bx+1kjcj50cr

Good point.

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Post ID: @bh+1kjcj50cr

You’re giving them too much credit. They don’t have a plan.

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Post ID: @b2+1kjcj50cr

what white collar role agentic AI w model distillation can’t replace?

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