All roles are on the list for 2/19. Sales/clinical/office. No rhyme or reason other than saving dollars to shore up the failing bottom line for Wall Street. The irony is that the c suite is creating this constant downward spiral because of their failure to listen to the market and re-invent the business to stay relevant. History has seen this exact scenario play out time and time again in business. The ego’s and audacity of the current leadership to think “they will be different and make it work” is what every other leader in a failed organization thought as well. The real losers in their game are the low level workers and members.
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@cz Complain about a VP
@p4 We had similar feedback in OI. Reogs to come, but also sounds like a hint of resource impacts.
I just hope and pray that I'm part of it and you younger folks are spared. On the other hand, I would feel sorry for those that have to stay,
@cd on a call with my boss and he eluded to the fact that there is an enterprise wide change to work force in play and further eluded to reductions. Didn't say more than that unfortunately nor did he feel he could tell us more. I can't say which area I'm in.
@dr
That doesn't sound "fair" to me. Sounds like racism.
@bt Yes! Same here!
@d7 I can tell how it worked in another fortune 100 company I worked for years ago.
I had a friend who was a director of a 500+ employee field office and she filled me in on the process.
Upper management wanted a 10% cut.
Local management had to rank everyone by performance metrics. The bottom 10% were selected.
THEN, they had to look at those 10% compared to the entire office population. If any protected group (race, s-x, age, etc.) were disproportionately represented in the layoff group, they had to add or remove metrics. They had to go through the process until they had a group of people who closely represented the over all population. Obviously, they didn't want to be sued. I have no idea if Optum cares, but if they do, that's why higher performers get let go sometimes - they have to keep it fair.
@d7 same as any other organization. A part performance, a part random and unfortunate (for those RIFd), a part senior leadership guessing what skill are needed to execute on short/long term goals, a part politics (are you part of a team who's VP carry weight).
@d7 No parameters. Automated algorithm I believe. Let go after 15 years -- only person in the company to do what I did. Because my job title was generic, I was part of the RIF. It su-ks. I really loved my job. Now to a better company that cares!
@c3 I keep asking what are the parameters for the layoffs. Is it performance, longevity, attitude, salary, slackers, age, what!! I never received an answer. There are many excellent people let go. It makes me wonder why they don't share. This silence causes more grief and stress. It also causes minor dissention among team members. The other problem is "laid-off" causes most employers to look at you as if you had done something wrong i.e. bad employee, absent all the time, not hard working. Shaking my head.
How do I get myself added to this list?
@cd I am in HC as well. At this point I stopped caring at all. Whatever happens, happens. Mentally drained to read every post or look into every little thing for a sign of imminent RIF. Give yourself grace and have a back up plan.
@bc THEN DONT COME HERE. PROBLEM FIXED. BYE
@by I wish I could hug you! Expectations are unrealistic and not humanly possible even if one were willing to work 15-20 hours a day. I am sorry that your team experienced this!
Is it UHG layoffs or specific to Optum?
Since you say “all roles” you must have some insight - do you know if Housecalls is on the list? We have been waiting over a month now to hear something.
@a6 high five get that paycheck, enjoy your life.
Every time one of these large RIFs hits, it’s at least 1–2K at Optum, sometimes more. Additionally, there are smaller off-cycle RIFs of several hundred. Often, you don’t know who was impacted until you email them and realize they’re gone.
I wish nothing but the best for my colleagues who have been and will be affected. We have lost some great people on my team in the past year and it was not due to performance on their part. There is so much victim-blaming on this site, and we need to support each other.
@bt my small team of 8, lost 3 FTE. I would call that a blood bath in the context of the work we are supposed to do. All work is being redistributed to the remaining 5 of us on the team. Wondering if the goal is to go through each department only once, or if they are going to come back for more.
Haven't been doing sh-t beyond the absolute minimum as slow as possible while watching tv. The last cuts came to my dept with 0 warning and removed people who i knew for sure went above and beyond their roles. Now can't motivate myself to do much knowing that none of it even matters.
The biggest problem I have had on this site over the last two years, is the crushing lack of awareness everyone seems to have of the size and scope of Optum.
when I was laid off not that long ago, it was indeed a 'bloodbath', there were 43 let go, and for the group from which they came it was a large hit. From an overall company perspective - not a drop in the bucket.
So I am sure on the 19th there will be a 'bloodbath' somewhere in Optum, but those of you who want to say 'false alarm' because it wasn't 20k people, just stop.
I won't try and tell people on line to be rational, that's just not possible.
Keep up the Gaslighting by ex employees on this site - I find coming here worse than waiting for the ax to fall. Grow up!
What department?
Oh well. Nothing we can do on this site. Their Scare tactics no longer work. I’m over it. Let it happen then. I’m going to continue doing bare minimum bc that’s all uhg does for me.
@OP will NP’s NCM and social workers get hit this time?