Thread regarding Edward Jones layoffs

It Has a Name. Constructive Discharge. And It Is a Horrible Way to Treat People.

What our employer is doing may not be illegal, but it is absolutely intentional.

People who have worked remotely for ten years are suddenly being told to commute hours every day. No individual consideration. No acknowledgement that some people do not even have the means to comply. Dress codes are being tightened after years. Compensation reviews are promised, then quietly abandoned. All of it is happening right in between layoff rounds.

Individually, each change can be defended. Together, they create pressure. Pressure that leadership knows will cause people to quit.

That pattern has a name. Constructive dismissal, also called constructive discharge. It is when working conditions are changed in ways that predictably push people out without formally laying them off.

This approach may help avoid certain legal thresholds, but it does not make it ethical. It places sustained psychological pressure on employees by design. People are left in prolonged uncertainty, forced to make impossible choices between their jobs and their lives, their families, their finances, and their health. The stress is not incidental. It is cumulative and relentless.

For some, this kind of management creates anxiety, sleeplessness, depression, and a constant sense of threat. When policies are used to push people out while leadership remains silent, employees are made to feel trapped and disposable. In extreme cases, this pressure has contributed to serious mental health crises, including people being pushed toward self harm. That is not a side effect. This is the intention.

Legal or not, it is a sh---y thing to do to people who have given years of their lives to a company.


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@bd What’s the name of the successful company you started?

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Post ID: @s8+1kgv9f822

An associate (SME) was laid off last year—first through ISP and later through VSP. Prior to the release date, the associate experienced repeated gaslighting attempts by their direct team leader (TL), behavior that was also witnessed by two newer associates within the department.

In one instance, the TL initiated an impromptu meeting regarding expectations for training India. Although the associate never refused, the TL “reminded” them of the VSP terms during the conversation. While the language was carefully framed to stay just below HR scrutiny, the associate perceived it as a veiled threat. This was one of several similar incidents.

These experiences took a significant toll on the associate’s mental health, leading them to seek therapy.

With mass layoffs continuing and an oversaturated job market, stories like this are becoming far too common—and deeply damaging to people’s lives.

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Post ID: @nt+1kgv9f822

@bd "times are changing"...Are you d-mb? Serious question. We were remote as a company for 4 years almost, bragged about it. Prior to that we bragged about how well we did with remote work and how it saved office space, provided work life balance. It was a win-win for everyone as long as the work was getting done. Some of the hardest workers I've ever dealt with were HBAs because they knew they were held to a higher standard. It was a step into the future and now we are going to go backwards into the 1990s. Backwards while touting the need to change with the times. You're nothing more than another room temp low IQ micro manager who needs to creep on your employees because you have nothing else better to do. I cannot wait for AI to replace bags of useless sh!t like you.

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Post ID: @eq+1kgv9f822

@bd Nah, fu-k that. Edward Jones doesn't get to pay people 25-30% below market rate and then just say "the times are changing".

People put up with Edward Jones's sh-t pay because of other factors like good culture and flexibility. They flushed the company culture down the toilet and took away the flexibility. Now it's time to pay up.

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Post ID: @dg+1kgv9f822

I am an HBA and Im shutin I admit it. I don't really go anywhere but groceries once every couple of weeks and doctors appointments twice a year. I live in Illinois in a nice but cheap area because i don't need to be close to things. I dont have a car, my family picks me up to get groceries together and i Uber if I can't do that. I dont need a car, havent for years. I have a job where I don't have to talk to people very often I just work with spreadsheets and documents. I really like my job because it is sometimes mentally challenging but never socially or emotionally challenging its perfect for me. I know i do good work and I have excellent reviews, never really thought anything would change and i dont want it to either.

The RTO feels like its ruining my life. I cant pass ADA and theres no exceptions for people like me. If I want to stay i have no choice I have to buy a car, i lose hours of my day 4 days a week, and the office is loud and there's people all over it's going to be exhausting for me I know it. I feel like i have to quit i don't have a choice but i really don't want to go i might even stay just hoping they change their minds but i can't have faith they will be reasonable anymore. I feel like if i can even get another remote job it's going to be callcenter or full of meetings and it will still be exhausting... just not as bad i guess.

im so sad and there's nothing i can do about it.

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Post ID: @cf+1kgv9f822

The gaslighting is what makes my blood want to boil. At every regional meeting last year the whole crowd LOVED all of the changes going on then you get one and one and they either HATE them and are too scared to say anything or they are su-king down Chubak butt juice so bad they don’t know what planet they are on anymore. They don’t tell us jack squat about what is going on at HQ. I hate to admit this but honestly I think a lot don’t care. Especially on my side in the FA world they are just worried about their commissions and good lord what some of them put their BOA’s through. MGuide “conversions” aka tell your BOA to port everything over. Here’s a real world example for you all. I called another FA to ask him if he had been experiencing any bad “advice” from HQ lately. He said yeah but all I do is hang up and try again. (Not very sound SOP when the Que has been about 30 minutes for every department) ELT better pray to, in their case Satan, that our predominately rural conservative investor doesn’t catch wind of their data being voluntarily given to an Indian company just so they could pay profit interest to some level 10 offices. On that point the only reason they even offered the profit interest is after Jennifer M left to Ameriprise in 2022 and they freaked the F out. My heart goes out to you all in St Louis and Tempe. I cannot wait until my time here is done. A place I used to look at with reverence has now been replaced with hatred. All for some ugly A pant suits and a NYC hub. For a place with a 100 year track record of picking where to invest, you’d think they should be good at that. Quite the opposite. Last point if you want a good chuckle. Go check out Penny’s brokercheck. Hahahaha an FA for 6 years and 2 disputes. Please read the dispute especially the language used by the client. Tell you everything you need to know about that greedy little troll.

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Post ID: @ce+1kgv9f822

100% dead on. Gut the culture while gas lighting us into thinking the new rules and stupid talking points are the culture we have always had. Quiet firing is another term. These inbred IQ leaders calling the shots really think that making the home office miserable and angry will result in more money long term? It takes a special kind of stupid + evil to really think like this.

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Post ID: @ca+1kgv9f822

@bd you sound ret@rded. Are you ELT or just another insecure GP who thinks they are entitled to get paid while us peasants pull the cart? People like you have no moral compass and will get the karma you deserve.

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Post ID: @c9+1kgv9f822

@OP Well said, OP. This is exactly what’s going on.

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Post ID: @bk+1kgv9f822

@bd Shut up Chubak

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Post ID: @bj+1kgv9f822

Better start your own company and you can wear your Snuggie all day and stay home. Times are a-changing. Some industries quicker than others. Life's not fair.

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