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Replace Farley with Barra to be successful

Mary is making things happen over at GM, actually announcing subscription REVENUE numbers. $2 BILLION current, $$5 BILLION future commitments.

From Business Insider:

Mary Barra, GM's CEO, boasted major gains in the company’s subscription base.

General Motors said its in-vehicle tech services generated nearly $2 billion last year.
GM sells three main subscription products: safety features, in-car internet access, and hands-free driver assistance.

GM told Business Insider it plans to add features through updates over time, reducing the need for new car parts.

General Motors has been pulling a Tim Cook and boosting its software and subscription business.

During the automaker's Tuesday earnings call, CEO Mary Barra highlighted the rapid growth of GM's in-vehicle software and subscription business.

In the past nine months, GM's software generated $2 billion, and customers have already signed up for about $5 billion in future subscriptions.

The company said it now has 11 million subscribers for its OnStar safety system, up 34% from a year earlier. Another half a million customers are also paying for Super Cruise, its hands-free driver-assistance system.

Now, that's still just a fraction of its total revenue, which was $45.29 billion in the last quarter alone. But the margins on those services are also higher than on cars sales.

GM says its software business keeps roughly 70 cents of every dollar it brings in. That's a rare level of profitability in the auto industry, as many car sales generate just four to 10 cents per sales dollar.

"We are also executing plans to grow software and services like OnStar and Super Cruise to generate even greater revenue during and after each vehicle sale," Barra said on the call. "We think there's a growth opportunity there with very attractive margins."

"Software and services are becoming increasingly important to how customers experience GM vehicles and how we deliver value beyond the initial purchase," a spokesperson told Business Insider.

The company also said it will keep adding features and services to vehicles over time, rather than relying on hardware upgrades.

"As vehicles become more software-defined, we can introduce new digital experiences through updates and optional services rather than hardware changes," the spokesperson added.

The subscriptions push comes as automakers look for new ways to make money after cars leave the dealership lot — especially as Detroit automakers roll out new electric vehicles.


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she is no different than Farley, only difference being bending over backwards to keep the stock price inflated which needs a correction back to $40. Both wasted billions for electrical vehicles which are becoming obsolete like lightning and hummer. Those billions could have been used to pay down the massive debt.

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Post ID: @1cj+1kg36k0ef

combined effort ford + gm, combined CEOs Barley and Farrah? known around the water coolers as Barley Corn and Fawcett?

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Post ID: @zw+1kg36k0ef

Put the two of them together and you have the same IQ as a typical short bus.

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Post ID: @vt+1kg36k0ef

@jg Sorry, correction "good at faking it."

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Post ID: @vq+1kg36k0ef

@re Mary is toxic, Jim is psychotic, pick your poison.

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Post ID: @rs+1kg36k0ef

Mary is a money maker. JF is an infant faker.

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Post ID: @re+1kg36k0ef

I won’t buy a car that requires subscriptions to use built-in features.

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Post ID: @hv+1kg36k0ef

While JF has had a misstep, we still have the best mobility leadership team in the business (DF, etc). That includes Barra and her misguided team.

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Post ID: @k8+1kg36k0ef

@hv If Farley is really a “marketing guy,” why has Ford’s market share declined pretty much every year since he joined Ford as VP Marketing? He’s an as s kisser.

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Post ID: @jg+1kg36k0ef

JF is a marketing guy, I'm sure he's good at it. I don't think he's the right CEO. He'll probably be better in a marketing company/agency. I would take an operations guy than a marketing guy, better an engineer like Barra. Auto companies are very complex engineering companies (1000s of parts to put together), you need somebody with knowledge to make quick decisions, give the lower-level engineers more authority to make the decisions that should have been done in the first place. Yes, wishful thinking. What do I know?

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Post ID: @hv+1kg36k0ef

@dj Goid analysis. Now do “Ford Secure.”

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Post ID: @ec+1kg36k0ef

i wonder how soon before GM cancels the EV Silverado and takes that write-down? does it have any range advantage over the F150 lightning? they bragged about a whole new architecture for their EV truck but... what did it buy them? do people want them?

this is the google AI summary, take of it what you will: isn't this Worse than F150 lightning?

Key 2025 Silverado EV Sales Trends:
Q1 2025: 2,383 units
Q2 2025: 3,056 units
Q3 2025: 3,940 units
Q4 2025: 1,896 units
2025 Total: 11,275 units

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Post ID: @dq+1kg36k0ef

@ax+1kg36k0ef "I told you subscription apps and services are significant sources of revenue."

You're still wrong... Remove the OnStar subscribers, a feature that started way before the "subscription era", and there is 0 revenue from subscriptions. Barra is just cooking the books for the subscriptions, trying to justify the money spent in that, because she was the one pushing for those.

Accordingly to the article, OnStar has 11 millions of subscribers. The cost of the cheapest OnStar plan is $20 per month. So...

$20 per month x 12 months per year x 11,000,000 subscribers = $2,640,000,000 per year

So roughly $2.6 Billions, but the article mentions it generated only 2 billions last year. Not profit, but total revenue. So... if total revenue is the sum of subscriptions and OnStar revenue... GM is losing money on subscriptions...

TotalRevenue = SubsRevenue + OnStarRevenue
$2.0 Billions = SubsRevenue + $2.6 B
SubsRevenue = - $600 Millions

So people using SuperCruise are causing a financial loss to GM. I am guessing from that half a million subscribers for SuperCruise, most of them are using SC for free as an incentive, while GM pays for $600 millions for it.

Regarding OnStar and its 11 millions subscribers... Did you know that in 2011, OnStar already had 6 millions of subscribers? So it took GM 14 years to almost double the amount of subscribers... I wonder how many years it will take GM to double the amount of subscribers for SuperCruise...

Subscriptions are a non viable path for automakers because not only it requires staff and expenses outside of the manufacturing plants, but manufacturing and subscriptions have opposite approachs with different cadences... which is very hard to time so they can work together... For !diots like you, that think a car is like an Iphone with wheels, may I remind you that Apple does NOT manufacture their own hardware... So, if Apple understands you cannot be at both sides of the fence at the same time, and allegedly we are "stealing talent" from Apple... why Ford executives cannot realize the simple truth I just said?

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Post ID: @dj+1kg36k0ef

@ct you might get in a fist fight at ford for doing that

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Post ID: @cv+1kg36k0ef

At GM, we are unsafe at any speed. Even sitting in our cubicles, which is a speed of zero.

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Post ID: @ct+1kg36k0ef

Jacques Nasser: "I'm from Australia and I am here to help!"

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Post ID: @bj+1kg36k0ef

@bf even with all the weirdos at ford, I’d rather be here than GM

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Post ID: @bh+1kg36k0ef

Do you guys really think it's all rainbows and butterflies here at GM...?
Grass ain't greener on the other side, my friend!

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Post ID: @bf+1kg36k0ef

GM vs. Ford,

I wish I could post the "you're both just awful" meme

It's like like watching handicapped people fight on South Park. Which one's Timmy?

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Post ID: @b4+1kg36k0ef

@b0 I'm not the one following employees after work to see if they're loyal to Ford like the fu--ing ge----o and profiling your own people secretly. You weirdos uncover sh-t thats completely not true and false and then force it on me as some fu--ing weird coercion. You guys take sh-t to the next level, like really? Beyond paypal you guys fu--ing go crazy. then you go after families? You trauma bond your employees and mentally break them if they uncover anything with teeth internally such as being lied to. Then you guys go larp and pretend victims are crazy or have some sort of problem. You guys try to pad sh-t internally and create fake histories the same way public education did since primary school in michigan. This is a pattern and you're all in on this sh-t. You guys laugh about getting away with this crazy sh-t

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Post ID: @b1+1kg36k0ef

@ay That's the troubling part...

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Post ID: @b0+1kg36k0ef

@ax I love you whoever this is

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Post ID: @ay+1kg36k0ef

I told you subscription apps and services are significant sources of revenue. Lucky for us at Ford, Model e has been perfecting our suite of features that will sweep the competition once they appear on out latest products. The public is going to love what we offer them! Cannot wait.

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Post ID: @ax+1kg36k0ef

@av I bet the people responsible appreciate you for when everyone finds out what happened and for how long. Keep that same energy until I start telling people

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Post ID: @aw+1kg36k0ef

@at 🤡🤡🤡

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Post ID: @av+1kg36k0ef

@ah Harass and stalk vocal ex-ford employees for you money 🔥

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Post ID: @at+1kg36k0ef

When we report actual dollar revenue for subscriptions, I’ll believe there is any. When Aragon reports Mirror subscription revenue and Moran reports Call The Police For You subscription revenue, I’ll believe there is any. Mary knows what she’s had with OnStar, I can’t believe they still have that many paying subscribers.

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Post ID: @ah+1kg36k0ef

True

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Post ID: @ae+1kg36k0ef

https://www.businessinsider.com/general-motors-gm-earnings-subscriptions-revenue-business-2026-1

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Post ID: @a7+1kg36k0ef

MTB THE GOAT

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