Thread regarding Boeing Co. layoffs

Mark Zuckerberg reportedly said he doesn't like seeing 'managers managing managers,' fueling speculation of more layoffs.

Exactly what Boeing needs to do. Layoff all middle managers there by flattening the managers rank. Boeing should also layoff their entire Human Resources department. No need for these people.

Mark Zuckerberg reportedly said he doesn't like seeing 'managers managing managers,' fueling speculation of more layoffs

Mark Zuckerberg reportedly said managers should not be rewarded for creating larger teams. 

Zuckerberg reportedly said he doesn't think a structure of "just managers managing managers" is ideal.

Meta's chief product officer Chris Cox has discussed the need to "flatten" the management structure, Command Line said. 

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My experience (Salary) has been that Senior managers typically perform tasks that are below their level because they basically don't know what/or have anything else to do.
Then, set yearly expectations (to make them look good) that end up distracting and frustrating employees from doing their job

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Most of the middle managers at Boeing won’t even speak to Low level engineers or mechanics. You think they’re working on development plans for their employees? Ha funny. The only development plans they focus on is their own.

Most spend the entire day playing politics, trying to move up the ladder. Except for an occasional upper level meeting they don’t do anything that I’m aware of. They are a complete waste of company resources. You could get rid of at least two layers of management, and no one would notice any difference in the functioning of the company.

Zuckerberg is right having managers managing managers is a complete waste of resources

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Post ID: @fymb+1kWGEmJx

HR is for the company, not the employee... duh!

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Post ID: @aoha+1kWGEmJx

So you want one manager to manage 1,000s of direct reports? Good look with professional development, advancement opportunities, and personal issues. If you dont incentivize succession and development, retention will cripple the organization. There is a reason for layering. One person can't be the bottleneck and filter for that much passdown/passup.

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Post ID: @9vcg+1kWGEmJx

Although a completely different business model, Boeing chooses to simply copy the management structure of IBM. To the end.

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Post ID: @syw+1kWGEmJx

The team lead runs the show, the only thing a manager is good for is to sign off your time.

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Post ID: @jou+1kWGEmJx

Having six layers of management over every single employee is ludicrous. You could get rid of three layers of management, and no one would notice a difference.

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