Thread regarding Ford layoffs

For those who once cared -

Over the last year or two, this place has gone way off track. Morale’s at rock bottom. People are grating on each other mercilessly. We’ve got RTO mandates, turf wars over desks, and middle managers acting like it’s a contest to see who can show the least empathy. It feels less like Ford and more like the opening scene of Anyone But You - chaotic, tone-deaf, and completely detached from reality.

Executives talk about “transformation” but can’t seem to manage basic humanity. Families are being disrupted left and right child pickups, elder care, medical needs, nanny arrangements, all brushed off with the corporate equivalent of “we don’t care.” Instead of solving problems, leadership doubles down on punishment, turning “accountability” into cruelty. Somewhere along the line, we turned into a bad sequel to Office Space only this time there’s no stapler to steal, just another RTO badge swipe to prove you exist.

Yet here’s the thing: there’s nothing broken that can’t be fixed if your heart’s still in it. The people who post here, the ones who still speak up even through the noise are the same ones who once believed in this place. We cared. We showed up. We tried to make Ford better for our coworkers, our community, and the future we were building together.

If you’re having a rough time, I’m here for you in spirit. You’re not alone. At least one person at Ford is rooting for you, hoping you find your footing again, hoping you remember what it felt like when this place still had soul. We used to laugh here. We used to smile. There was a time when people genuinely looked out for each other. Now it’s like everyone’s trapped in The X-Files: trust no one.

All of us “perfect” people with the “perfect” lives seem to be locked in this quiet war, trying to survive, trying to look strong, and sometimes tearing each other down in the process. Still perfect-looking, maybe. But far from perfect, me included. I’m anxious, nervous, a little bitter at times. I don’t trust people the way I used to, even the ones I probably would’ve been friends with if the company showed a little heart.

I’ll be honest, there have been moments where I’ve cheered in the face of others struggling, not out of cruelty but from my own exhaustion, my own hurt. When you’re fighting to survive, you start finding light in the grimmest stories, just to remind yourself you’re still standing. And for that, I’m sorry. We’ve all been there. We’re all driven by love of this place, even when it’s buried under layers of anger and frustration. Sometimes we’ve inappropriately found cause for celebration in someone else’s pain because it meant our own survival. But no one truly hates you. No one here wants you to fail. That love is still there, even if it’s quiet.

We can all be cruel at times. That’s what makes us human. What matters is that we move forward, making the best of bad situations while still offering support to the people who need it most.

There’s still a chance to fix the vibe in this palce. But it starts with empathy, not metrics. Maybe we all need a little more Ferris Bueller and a little less Fight Club. Remember when we built things instead of tearing each other apart? Yeah. Let’s get back to that.


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@cq+1k93rzwhf this is a great line: "Within a decade the 95% Americans in the IT and engineering areas had shifted to 80% Indian."

so... 0.05 of Americans left + 0.76 indians... 81% indians!

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Post ID: @dd+1k93rzwhf

@cf lower ev sales is a great thing

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Post ID: @d5+1k93rzwhf

@cj most of this started in earnest in the Jack the Kn--e Nassar era. Management got convinced by Wall Street types and Boston Consulting types that people other than management were irrelevant replaceable cogs. The low cost country invasion began en masse to replace NA and Europe IT and engineering with H1Bs. The technical career GSR bands higher than GSR8 were removed. Overnight tons of technical GSR9 and GSR10 were made LL6 and their roles shifted to supervisory.

Then the mass layoff of experienced NA IT and engineering, followed by hiring low cost country replacements. Within a decade the 95% Americans in the IT and engineering areas had shifted to 80% Indian. Meanwhile the quality of the IT and engineering dramatically declined.

Supervisors and Managers were rotated to a new area every couple of years so they could become well rounded leaders. What happened instead was the FnF crowd adopted a short term mentality, and each blamed their predecessors for any problems that arose.
Since every LL level rotated every couple of years there was no accountability for long term problems. Bandaids and LipStick were common resolutions.

“Leaders” will not hire or promote high caliber employees as they are perceived as threats. The d-mbing down of the “leadership” ranks has resulted in a Frat boy atmosphere.

Meanwhile these “cost savings” initiatives resulted in extreme employee and leadership bloat. Functions that use to be performed by 5 highly skilled engineers now have 80 engineers in name only along with a leadership tree to manage those engineers. Old employee yearly cost 150,000*8=1,200,000. New cost including leadership=9,250,000. That is just one small team. And that doesn’t even factor in all the warranty costs caused by the poorer quality engineering.

Alas implosion is likely the only solution. Alan Mulally was able to temporarily get the “leadership” team to behave and work towards a common goal. But as soon as Alan departed the “leadership” games resumed. There isn’t a single “leader” at Ford who has a fraction of Alan’s abilities. And that is by Ford design

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Post ID: @cq+1k93rzwhf

@cm you tell me, I’m out of ideas, been here too long

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Post ID: @cn+1k93rzwhf

@ck Yes - several, just how to begin????

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Post ID: @cm+1k93rzwhf

@cj any suggestions?

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Post ID: @ck+1k93rzwhf

@OP This is not just at Ford, however, having family and friends at Ford all share the same story as written here. It is no longer a professional place of business but more of a FRAT Club where buddies and family are hired instead of true leaders, true critical thinkers, and individuals not just chasing the mighty dollar.

We the caring people who still have fight left needs a forum to stand up and make change in the manufacturing arenas. This behavior listed and talked about at Ford Motor Company is everywhere, it is the greed and the riding on the backs of others to win a race, a race that only leaves devastation and destruction behind for those that care.

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Post ID: @cj+1k93rzwhf

Problem with Ford is the priorities. #1 is fixing recalls and not hotel desks. Lipstick in a pig. EV sales down over 50%, layoff is pending.

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Post ID: @cf+1k93rzwhf

It is strange this company is still in business. It is very unhealthy environment for whoever is still working here. Some pretend to be happy when they are not.

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Post ID: @a5+1k93rzwhf

It’s survival of the fittest.

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