Thread regarding Ford layoffs

Former Ford employee lays out the truth on her LinkedIn page

Her name is Natalie H@wke and she made her post public (which is going somewhat viral on LinkedIn):

This week, I walked away from Ford for the last time.

It was a difficult decision to leave my team, especially my developers, but a necessary one to protect my values and well-being. The environment had become draining, disheartening, and fundamentally misaligned with the kind of work I believe in.

I stayed as long as I did because of my team. They deserved someone who would fight for a better environment. I still love Agile development and product management. I still believe in both. But there was no longer space for either to thrive.

Ford promotes a concept called the Ford Operating System. A set of values known as FordOS Behaviors. On the surface, they look great. But dig just a little deeper, and the contradictions become impossible to ignore:

🔹 Excellence
• Deliver it — but only exactly how you're told
• Own it — but not too much; don’t challenge leadership

🔹 Focus
• Do only what matters — unless leadership mandates otherwise
• Bias for action — only if it's controlled from above

🔹 Collaboration
• Seek to understand — only with permission, and only if the questions don’t ruffle feathers
• Solve together — so long as the solution aligns with what’s already been decided

The worst part? This creates a culture of fear, where performance reviews aren’t based on impact or outcomes, but on obedience. Living the FordOS values in practice often leads to being labeled “difficult” and being punished for it.

That fear runs especially deep in Ford’s RTO “strategy.” Employees receive threatening emails if they fail to meet RTO mandates. But there simply isn’t enough space, not enough desks, not enough parking, not even enough chairs. On the first day back, people had their cars towed because the lots were overrun. Others have been forced to work from cafeterias, couches, barstools, even microwave counters. Fistfights over desks have been reported. And yet leadership insists: “We do our best work face-to-face.”

Who gets into a literal fight over a desk?
Someone terrified of losing their job over a mandate they have no control over.

And toward the end, I finally saw what so many women in tech have long experienced. I used to believe that things had improved, because I hadn’t faced it myself. It turns out I had simply been lucky to work with leaders who valued my contributions. Respected my voice. That luck ran out. I found myself being interrupted, second-guessed, and talked over.

Through it all, I worked with some of the most brilliant, thoughtful people I’ve ever met. But even they couldn’t do their best work with their hands tied by outdated mandates and a culture that rewards compliance over innovation.

I didn’t leave because I gave up. I left because I know I can do more, create more, lead more, and thrive more outside of a system that stopped valuing individual contributions.

I don’t know what comes next. But I’m ready to find out.

And to all the people I met along the way: Thank you. I’ll always be grateful.


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@s0+1k7747mea when you work ford you tell them your observations about how to improve things, and they say "that is just your opinion" too

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Post ID: @wk+1k7747mea

@hk I am the same way, good to hear there are some like minded people.

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Post ID: @sy+1k7747mea

@af she's real. I worked with her.

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Post ID: @sx+1k7747mea

@qm That is why one should ALWAYS start with "In my opinion..." when posting something that may be a risk for a lawsuit.

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Post ID: @s0+1k7747mea

Don’t go away mad….just go away….

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Post ID: @rp+1k7747mea

@kg Correct, if Ford believes she has tarnished them they can sue. Now the only issue is to win that type of suit, you need to prove it was not true....

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Post ID: @qm+1k7747mea

@mh where did you hear about object permanence?

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Post ID: @mj+1k7747mea

@mg

If you're talking about self respect then yes, cant work in Model e with that bull $hit. Might as well leave.

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@kg

What in the world is this post supposed to be? You can't be a worker in Model e or digital/software orgs with that thinking.

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Post ID: @mg+1k7747mea

@m6 honest question, do you want to talk?

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Post ID: @m7+1k7747mea

Structure itself is meant to support lasting equilibrium. Unfortunately, sometimes “desired state” is one of control which becomes a stable equilibrium for a system, despite being a deeply perverse one. In such environments, anything that challenges or doesn’t feed that disturbing state is seen as instability and is actively suppressed to maintain balance. You can’t find true alignment if you’re constantly performing for systems that are misaligned with your values. Without a fundamentally conducive structure, changes are merely temporary, and problems inevitably recur. Since resistance is a force that can slow or oppose change, and it appears strong enough to effectively prevent that in this situation, it is definitely better to get out and thrive. Resistance doesn't make change impossible, but you choosing to leave the ring could be more impactful than you trying to fit boxed-in. That doesn’t mean there won’t be hardship as new, healthier structures take shape, but when equilibrium is finally reached, it will be one that supports your growth and well-being, and that’s when you can truly be happy instead of performing for something that doesn't fit.

@jj+1k7747mea

I don't think you're a recruiter.

"Maybe your school district was different."

The claim that you were heavily taught a structured, career-oriented digital footprint curriculum as part of school policy in elementary grades during 2001–2009 doesn’t seem well supported by the historical record. But maybe my school district was in fact an outlier. During 2005–2008, social media in my area was not as ingrained in day-to-day life for young kids, and the potential career ramifications of posting online were not on educators' radar in the same way they are now. I was too busy hosting Halo servers and my cliff mods near the end of Bush's administration. In elementary, not many of my peers had socials other than me since their parents treated it like under-age smoking. If anything, it was more common to be on Facebook after the end of Bush's administration.

"If she was good enough, she’ll get headhunted for referrals. Otherwise, she’s stuck with everyone else cold applying to positions, except when she gets to the interview stage. The HR recruiter will see she trashed her previous employer, which we all know, whether valid or not, we’re 'not supposed to say aloud in the interview.'"

I'd think of her in the future as someone to recruit or refer, if she doesn't end up creating her own business. Her post makes me feel like this was a moment of personal development. I sense a protector archetype. Confident advocates are essential because they inspire others. What she did was brave, and it may be essential for who she may be evolving into as a person, even though it may not be easy. She now has a continuum of what it was like when things were healthy, and now she understands the other side of what it is like to not have that privilege. That gives her a more personal understanding of experiences many may deal with, but get dismissed for expressing. She can relate, and she chose to speak revelation to power, something that takes courage and independence, even if it leads to uncertainty. Look up region-beta-paradox. What she did was difficult and may very well bring some hardship, but suffering isn't always bad. It is part of growth. Her actions are a form of leadership, even if others may not recognize it. I would even go so far as to say that others suffering can also potentially view her negatively, think of cr--s in a bucket, pulling one back in instead of letting them be "free." She made the right decision; it could always get worse, believe me.

"others can’t afford thinking like that."

I understand, and it was oblivious/harmful to assume otherwise. Others can't afford to stay either. Sometimes, staying is the more expensive choice. You're practical and right to think that recruiters may take this as a red flag, but those companies are canceling themselves out. It is like a filter. Your vibe attracts your tribe in the end. Nobody said it is easy to find others that are conducive to one's values, and like you said, it is a job. The question should really be what having a job means for her and if that is something she wants for herself in this next chapter. That doesn't mean to just mindlessly live life either. It means to navigate and figure out who you are and how you can live the life you want, whether that is another job or something else.

@af+1k7747mea

Lol

@gj+1k7747mea

We appreciate you keeping up with the Kardashians. How often do you check up on people to make sure they aren't doing good? Do you kick others while they're down physically, too? Or is it just something you do to ensure they stay that way, anonymously behind a screen and with distance, like a child who doesn’t understand object permanence. I'm sure you do understand object permanence and this is intentional though.

You don’t see that people can tell your comment is coming from a source of pain you haven't yet recognized for yourself.

Post ID: @hp+1k7747mea

That's interesting. Personally, I never got a PIP or even knew of my own 401k vest date, what I did get however was a "I processed your promotion" when I told my boss quit. They lied and punished me under Ford OS behaviors by misrepresenting my emergency room visit and sickness after international travel as retaliation for confronting the participants in the "meeting of the minds" over not just lying, but gaslighting me. So mine was not over performance, but apparent "professionalism" for being deceived by leadership and unprotected from their rent-seeking associates. I'm sorry that happened to you though.

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Post ID: @m6+1k7747mea

@hk+1k7747mea yes it's typically bad form to trash your former employer, but what she says is true. if the investors only knew the clown-like behavior that goes on... she will be able to get a job at a place that does Not have the characteristics of Ford. if we keep hiding the truth, it is never going to get fixed. the truth shall set you free... possibly from your job, haha.

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Post ID: @kg+1k7747mea

@hk Not sure why you assume I’m a recruiter, or why you think I’m being funny/think it’s meaningless. Also the digital footprint and caution education started in the early 2000’s. Maybe your school district was different. “Only old-school companies still interpret public LinkedIn posts like this as a red flag.” So most companies in automotive? You mention tech companies and startups. According to job postings and LinkedIn, startups make you work in abusive conditions and the company might still go under. Tech companies are also the same type of places that will virtue signal ‘values’ like ford and GM, but in practice, if it is a bigger company the leadership gets to control what that actually means. That mentality is nice to have if you’re rich and swimming in money, hopefully you and her are. But it’s sorta naive. It’s a job. If she was good enough she’ll get headhunted for referrals, otherwise she’s stuck with everyone else cold applying to positions, except when she gets to the interview stage, the HR recruiter will see she trashed her previous employer, which we all know, whether valid or not, we’re “not supposed to say aloud in the interview”. I agree with what she says, but I’m looking at this practically. She’s probably gonna be martyred, you can see it come from the comments under her post. At best someone from those comments offers her a job. Companies will say it’s oh so inspiring to look good, but realistically won’t change for a long long time. Also to add, admirable that you hold those values while looking for an employer, but others can’t afford thinking like that.

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Post ID: @jj+1k7747mea

@hk yeah, no, we were taught digital footprint starting in the bush years.

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Post ID: @jg+1k7747mea

This is inspiring, I might do a tell all soon about how ford constructed my dismissal, interfered with FMLA leave, PIP’d me a month before 401k vest and all the dysfunction over multiple years.

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Post ID: @hp+1k7747mea

@h2 You probably think you're dropping some wisdom or insight, but it’s clear to anyone who was actually there that this didn’t happen in the 2000s or early 2010s. For someone with a professional career to be talking about being taught digital footprints in elementary school just doesn’t add up.

This is only a more recent development in our educational landscape. It wasn’t until around 2012 to 2015 that topics like online reputation management, privacy settings, and the idea of a digital footprint started being taught, mostly to high schoolers and older students who were just beginning to think about college or careers.

MySpace and early Facebook weren’t framed as “career risks” for elementary school kids. A more realistic example of digital awareness back then would be schools warning students about misinformation on Wikipedia, and even that only became common around 2011.

This is only a more recent development in our landscape. It wasn’t until 2012–2015 that things like online reputation management, privacy settings, and the idea of a digital footprint started being taught to high schoolers and older kids who were just thinking about their careers. MySpace and early Facebook weren’t widely discussed as “career risks” for elementary-aged kids. Kids being warned about possible misinformation on Wikipedia is a much more probable case, and that would have been around 2011. Before that, elementary kids who were chronically online were more into things like Neopets, Runescape, Club Penguin, Miniclip, MSN Messenger (to chat with other friends from school), BattleOn5, Habbo Hotel, Gaia Online, and other similar virtual hangouts that were less about social media reputation or real life and more about simple fun and games.

Older kids might have started dabbling with MySpace or Tumblr in middle school, but actual digital footprint education came much later.

So either you're not being honest, or you're 18 or 19 years old and had an internship here. But that would mean you were in third grade in 2015, which just proves the point.

Only old-school companies still interpret public LinkedIn posts like this as a red flag. Plenty of companies with living in today's world, especially in tech, startups, or mission-driven orgs value authenticity, courage, and leadership. Even legacy companies campaign to recruit those archetypes to fix broken cultures, the exact kind of she of leadership she demonstrated by leaving. The job market is evolving. Transparency and values are increasingly rewarded, especially among Gen Z and millennial-led teams. The turn over won't be shocking later for companies that aren't wising up.

If you and other "recruiters" believe being vocal is a "flight risk", that says more about your fear of accountability than her ability to perform. Her post show that she has the intelligence to know when a system can't be changed from the inside. Personally, I wouldn't be interested in being associated with a company that penalizes honesty, even as a partner.

Before I walk into a building or do business, I look at who has joint stake ownership and judge the event by association with all parties involved. This may seem funny or meaningless to you, but it’s not to me. This is something I actively think about. If I want to do any business with a company, I’m going to look at how they treat their employees...and most importantly, how they respond in moments like this. Otherwise, I have no assurance they won’t do me the same. I know that I am not the only one who thinks this way.

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Post ID: @hk+1k7747mea

*** Ford will never recover from its unfinished technical debt. People are gone = laid off, burned out, or otherwise disappeared. Fixing recalls? There’s no one left to figure them out. The last four years have been a total internal apocalypse, a chaotic maelstrom of inconsistent ideas that turned into a dragon slayer for anyone who wasn’t supposed to be in the line of fire. The id--ts on top come and go, but they’ve dented the company for the next 10–15 years, if it even survives the recession. These id--ts destroyed the company and thousands of families who devoted their lives to the work, relying on measly pennies to feed their kids and save their pensions.

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Post ID: @h4+1k7747mea

@gn straight up, it’s why they taught us so heavily about social media and digital footprint in elementary school. You don’t do this stuff under your real name. Looks honorable, but a recruiter of any future employer sees that as a flight risk.

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Post ID: @h2+1k7747mea

That women's LinkedIn post made her tainted, like radioactive. She's going to find it nearly impossible to find another job.

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Post ID: @gn+1k7747mea

@a4 I think you mean BOTTOM-up thinking. Didn't you notice the A$$HOLE at the top?

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Post ID: @f7+1k7747mea

original linkedin post = truth! been that way for years. they keep talking about changing the culture but they never do. there are isolated pockets that have good culture for a time, but get a new manager and then... back to idiocy.

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Post ID: @f1+1k7747mea

Whoever is the Admin for this site should go into housekeeping. They do a thorough job of SCRUBBING posts.

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Post ID: @f0+1k7747mea

@OP her message is great and all, but from a more cynical perspective, I really hope she had a job setup before leaving. It’s a terrible job market in addition to her making this post under presumably her real name. Already hard to get hired right now, having that come up when the recruiter searches her is gonna be viewed as a ‘red flag candidate’ sign.

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Post ID: @eb+1k7747mea

LMAO ... downvoting the dude that made fun of Project Management types should let everyone know that most of the people on this site are just trolls or Project Managers.

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Post ID: @bz+1k7747mea

@bv They probably brush their teeth daily as well.

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Post ID: @by+1k7747mea

@af
Nope not grandious, just proper grammar and good thought processing. Good sentence structure as well.

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Post ID: @bv+1k7747mea

1000 upvotes.

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Post ID: @b2+1k7747mea

Checked out her LinkedIn profile. While I don't disagree with the entire post, I've found project management types fairly useless in my nearly 40 years of developing software.

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Post ID: @av+1k7747mea

Something tells me this is not a tech person or a real name. This seems like grandiose language by someone very bitter that’s been posting on here. I doubt they quit.

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Post ID: @af+1k7747mea

Top down thinking has been evident in the products for 25 years now. It’s really gotta su-k being an employee there; constantly waiting to be told what’s important or wrong

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