Thread regarding Optum layoffs

No point worrying about all the implications of RTO

It’s here to make you leave. And the conditions will only get tougher and harder to meet over time. It’s not that leadership doesn’t care about the difficulties RTO creates, they’re actively trying to make people fed up enough to quit, or set them up so they can fire them with an excuse. It’s that simple. The best move is to look for other opportunities, do the bare minimum here, and force them to lay you off with severance. I don’t see any other option.


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@ac I don't disagree with what you're saying there, except for where you imply that people aren't working hard at home. Many people work harder, more, and more efficiently when working at home, and a lot of research and real world examples support that at this point.

UHG/Optum having employees (especially ones hired on as full time telecommute) come in to a physical office has basically nothing to do with getting more out of people in terms of work performance and efficiency. It will likely have a negative impact on those things.

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@ab Not sure if you are trolling, but have to agree. The sense of entitlement from people is amazing. If you owned a business and had employees tell you where and how their job would be done, you would fire them. I get it. People hate to be around other people. I don't like going back in, but look at the people on teams on past calls. I see more and more with the "no longer with the company" status. Wake up! the economy is crashing. Stop complaining, go in and do the job you are paid for, or join the others on unemployment.

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@ab Oh boy. Sunk cost fallacy is driving Optum's decisions, is how I'm kindly interpreting your post. That makes me feel even worse about being at the company.

For those with disabilities, RTO means that work is going to be a lot more difficult. And... it's good because everyone else always did it and sunk cost fallacies. Brilliant.

After my former boss was laid off, they gave me his job on top of my original duties. They cut our team from 25 people to 6 strong remote workers. We can't afford to lose any more people, but that's what's going to end up happening. Then again, it's not like the job market is hopping, so I guess we'll have to see. Don't be a little toad, though. It really is that hard.

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@ab asking people to come in almost full-time that we hired and planned around a full-time telecommute role (a material promise), is not ethical. It’s awaiting at people to quit and avoid paying severance. I’m sure there will be a round of layoffs if they don’t hit their quota afterwards.

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Post ID: @aq+1k6jwc2pz

The beatings will continue until morale improves

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Post ID: @ak+1k6jwc2pz

If your boss doesn’t have to do it, you can probably get away with it.

The problem Optum made for itself is over a half decade it has built entire departments spread across all 50 states. If the newest hire has to drive in and doesn’t even know anyone at the campus, they aren’t going to be working any harder than at home. No one knows what that person is supposed to be doing there anyways.

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Post ID: @ac+1k6jwc2pz

If people think RTO is to make people want to quit, then you simply don't understand business. Everybody should just grow up and go to work. From the beginning of business time people have gone into an office and worked I did it for many many years. The company is trying to put people back into their investment in their facilities which sat empty for years. One of the greatest wastes of capital ever! Stop whining do your job or leave... Ge-z is it really that hard?

Here come the negatives!

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Post ID: @ab+1k6jwc2pz

There's a Forbes article where 25% companies are admitting it's to encourage quitting. Im sure 100% it is at least a main contributing reason to implement an RTO.

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Post ID: @aa+1k6jwc2pz

Facts.

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