I thought they were tracking office attendance. Why are some people exempt (I'm not talking about folks who were remote before the pandemic)? Do their managers go to bat for them? What else could be the reason?
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A few years ago, a manager in RR went into the restroom to check on an employee to confirm he was actually there
@mv Amen bro. I do all my quality work on the throne.
A-s kissers. Im stuck in office, tools taken away, my software gone, and losing productivity.
@fp hi, if you have an accommodation, you are also able to apply for positions and get promotions. They can’t legally hold it against you.
@ks Here I sh!t and stink, and think about the sink. "Splash!" There goes another one. All on company time
If I go in then I immediately go to the restroom to dump a stink bo-b. You can probably smell me outside RR3 as they are stink and block the toilet.
Most of my team relocated during the pandemic and are no longer within an hour of a Dell office. For me it's a 3 hour drive if I am not driving during rush hour.
I WFH and I am very productive, more productive than the rest of my team. If I have to go back to work, I will look for another job; it is simple as that.
On my team, it was because they were indians and the manager was indian...so do the math.
@am My ACTUAL team of 12 or 13 people, only 3 of us were deemed to be "onsite." Everyone else is full remote. Of those 3 people, they all live in different states and will never actually see each other in office lol. Myself being one of those 3...
Even though I live roughly an hour from the office, I just make the drive 3x per week. Park in the handicap space, go swipe my badge and go straight back home. It's a pain but I have zero reason to go into the office as NOBODY I work with is at that office.
Once in a blue moon I will avtually stay but only bc I'm hungry and will grab some food, attend a VIRTUAL meeting - that I could have done at home... - then take off after that. The buliding I go to is literally a ghost town after 11-11:30am anyways.
@am NOT true. To some extent that is true but ultimately it's up to the VP/C level folks of your org.
Initially, my manager told us that they weren't going to make anybody go into the office unless HR/VP's started telling him otherwise. Which is exactly what happened. Our ORG's VP wants us to go into office 30% of the time - basically just coffee badge if we want to lol.
@fp Realistically, I don't think you sacrificed any type of promotions... Considering they have been MIA for the last like 5 years.
Some people - such as myself - have a medical exemption. Mine is good for a few more months before I have to submit another one - Which I won't be.
Some orgs straight up dgaf and each org is different. So far as I'm aware, the sales org requires 5 days/week; while my org only wants a percentage of swipes per quarter. I'm guessing it's 3 days/week. Other orgs may not care at all.
For my org specifically, my manager and director dont care if we go in, stick around, or just coffee badge. They honestly dont care if we go in at all BUT, it's our VP who cares. And like I said, they are only looking for a percentage of badge swipes per quarter.
Also, it's SUPER easy to get a medical exemption btw! I have one that is legit but there were no questions asked. I told my manager/director; they submitted an HR request which was approved and that was that. No proof to be shown. I was surprised how simple it was tbh. I had proof and doctors notes in case HR wanted them but, nope.
No doctors notes, no anything other than "my word." Claim you broke your right ankle (your driving foot) and can't drive. Claim you had ACL surgery and can't bend your knee, claim you are taking care of an ill and elderly mother or something... basically anything that prevents you from DRIVING. HR won't push back because of lawsuits.
From what I was told by HR, anything under 12 months just needs managerial approval + an HR case to be opened. Anything OVER 12 months starts going into a sabatical and/or medical leave of absense. In which case, proof would very likely be required. It basically says all of this in the RTO sharepoint as well.
Point is that, different orgs require different things and some people have medical exemptions. Go get one of those. It's super easy and is good for 6 months.
@gw ... or shopping .. :-)
@cd I find the opposite. People in the office disappear for hours. Then you see them in the cafe or the game lounge. Remote folks I work with are always on and available
I have a medical accommodation and went through a process to be classified as remote again by HR. As far as I’m aware, I have sacrificed my ability to get promoted to remain remote, but my health is more important.
@cg Yup, that is how much boss it too, but our team's low badge swipes got the attention of one of the directors, so now we're all in hot water, manager included.
My manager said there's an official policy And it's manager discretion.
My manager does not care unless he's made to care by the folks above him
What’s more frustrating are remote workers who can’t bother to be online. They can get f**ked.
silence, don't ruin it for them too
Everyone needs to worry about themselves.
What has been your experience?
@b1 Bravo! I've lived in countries outside the US and UK where people are measured on integrity and trust where people work to have a quality of life for themselves and their loved ones. They are not measured on their salary or the hours they put in, where their loved ones have to "understand" and provide support. for all the hours they have to work.
Not that any big corp cares about the individual, they care about share price.
We live in a culture consumed by comfort, ambition, and the pursuit of money, so much so that we forget what life is truly about. Many silently enable the very systems that strip power from the people, not out of malice but out of fear and complacency. Yet even in the shadows, thank God for those brave souls willing to risk everything for the greater good. When freedom returns, we will know exactly who to thank. It is time to wake up, see clearly, and remember that true life is measured not in wealth or comfort, but in courage, integrity, and love for what is real.
The policy is very clear, it is up to your manager.
None of your business. They could have medical accommodations.
why is it important?
@ac wonder why manager cares so much then
@OP they no longer care ....