VP-level executives and above were assessed confidentially by the HR department in preparation for the next round of workforce reductions. According to a credible source, the evaluation considered factors such as salary ranges, employee engagement results, documented HR complaints about leadership behavior, and potential organizational liability. Multiple lawsuits tied to leadership actions have already been filed, creating significant financial and reputational risk for the company.
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Someone asked about OI. OI launched AI on June of 2025 and reduced billing and overpayment errors by 99%, high administrative costs and friction and that is just a few examples. AI is fast and accurate which is good, but it will replace manual labor. Only certain complex cases will require a human, so yes AI will replace more labor for OI.
So it's true about Wellmed, I just got my marching orders after 5 years of dedicated service on a "Thursday". FYI for those remote workers that have been taking advantage of the system, corporate does have a specialized monitoring software that will analyze activity levels, patterns and the presence of unauthorized devices for "work" performance. Since this organization has been mismanaged with total losses every year, they will want to recoup their money by searching for anything suspicious, kiss your severance good bye and maybe a lawsuit for timecard fraud.
@p8 this makes a ton of sense. CEO's commentary during the last earnings call explicitly called out the "unfocused suite of products" under OI. This also explains why DS left and SD took her place. My question: how bad is OI going to get hit?
@2y1 Can confirm through a shareholders forum that revenue cycle management, analysts, medical billing, and patient customer support will be outsourced. This strategy will offer huge cost savings and profitability to shareholders and U.S. based companies. India has a large English speaking skilled personnel and a highly medically proficient workforce, not to mention that many IT firms have also outsourced to India. Bye bye WellMed.
WellMed is owned and actively managed by UHC. Remaining RIF's will be October 16 and October 30. All telecommute positions will be transferred to KAP Pvt. Ltd., which is considered the best healthcare call center in India.
What about layoff on oct 16
Scary
@1xh Absolutely. That’s what happens when your goal is to acquire 100+ new clinics a year. Especially when they’re buying up these s**t, bottom of the barrel practices so that they can “turn them around.” And what’s happening now? Closing and merging to save $!!
For the WellMed downsizings…the hard reality is the previous top leadership of WellMed and the South Region steered the organization off of a cliff financially and now they have to do 2-3 years of change and reorganization in just a couple/few months. The parts of the organization that do not make revenue have to be terminated and all of those areas and teams that support it. The organization has to become streamlined and efficient…which it has NOT been for decades. It has been horribly lead and set up with huge teams that have done little to make revenue cycle occur regularly…and coupled with the 3 years of V.28 reimbursement cuts it has been a recipe for financial disaster. The leadership did little to nothing to make drastic changes to adapt and so now the Optum and OptumHealth level leadership had to step in to make dramatic changes in leadership and make mandatory pull backs in some markets and functions that do not make revenue. It is sad for sure. You can blame it on being unfair or an evil corporation but the reality is it was indecisive poor leadership that lead to this…they did not make the tough decisions when they should have a couple of years ago. Having a couple of years to make changes would have allowed leaders to redeploy their talented team members to other areas of the wider UHG company or even just give people a head’s up to make their own decisions. But by not acting decisively and effectively the senior leadership that was in charge set us all up for potential bad career impacts on us, our families and our patients. Be mad at the correct people who set this all in motion.
@b5 they are level 30-31 those with VP titles. We have too many VPs in my dept and people being promoted to director based not on need but only to appease them. So bigger title and bigger paycheck and no more responsibilities. Makes no sense especially while we people are losing their jobs.
@r8 good question. It's not possible, that's why the stock cratered into $300s. Anyone's guess how true believers pulled it out of the $200s and stayed over $300 because there's no way to grow an outdated business model 10-15% per year like steve promises.
Only things close is layoffs, buy backs, divestitures. You shrink the pie its easier to grow it back.
@p8 UNH already makes 400B in revenue last year, how can it grow 15% per year consistently? The US population grows just 1% per year and the only way UNH can earn 15% more is by increasing the premium. Get a brain. UNH just doesn't need 400K employees. 100K is enough with the help of AI.
@mx 9-figure business units will be sunsetted bc not core and want to cut costs. Giving up positive IOI to cut costs from USA-labor. Things that were going in 3-5 years - exits accelerated. Plenty of directors, VPs and SVPs. Already happening. Wait for it.
Heartless and foolish in terms of profit, literally less cash flow. But you can't grow 10-15% per year if projects are tapering off. 2025 is a bogey, we'll shrink the top line, even if positive IOI things gets cut so Steve-o can pump that growth % for 2026+
What he's missing is that we're circling the drain and competitors eat up whatever scraps are left.
Confirmed? Where is the source?
@f2 the biggest fraud was Nico who wrecked a department with his ego and threw people under the bus. He too brought in people and played the visa lottery and had his people move to other countries.
I sit here in ESRO wondering how unethical the leadership had been!
HR needs to verify the work experience of the following people who claim to be information security experts.
The person who is currently listed on LinkedIn as a Segment Information Security Officer – Global for UHG who was formally employed by ING. This person was brought in with lies from Mexico...the person who hired him rented him a home which he ultimately sold to him. Nice gig to get while American's born here and with actually real resumes are laid-off.
The person currently listed on LinkedIn as International Information Security Liaison with zero experience as a information security professional. He is also from ING
H1B visa abuse ignored and never addressed.
Will optum at home get hit? We were told no more layoffs this year in optum at home?
Lots of top level folks being purged. Replacements told one thing: want a job in 3 quarters? Cut overhead under you 50% or more.. now.
Gonna be a blood bath for us all.
Look over to ISNP/IESNP leadership for the next round. Lying, conniving, unethical, and multiple lawsuits pending. Clock is ticking folks......
@c0 This is what I don't understand. If we're operating as somewhat separate companies (we have bloated commercial staff for intersegment sales across BUs, which is insane), there should be very, very little at the "UHG" level.
@c8 It's starting to hit 32+ it's not as widely known and it doesn't always happen on the big dates, usually before or after. You often see downlines reassigned and then the 32+ person quietly disappears. It's weird because if <32 people saw the upper echelon isn't spared it would probably boost morale.
We have so much redundancy and have kept a lot of good old boys/girls along for a long time. They're still purging Change folks slowly but surely.
It's those SVP's (SLT, ELT) they should be tagging for layoffs and HR evaluations even more. If people only knew the conniving, self serving, things they say and do behind prying eyes they would be shocked and livid. They play the empathetic caring leader to the team and then laugh at them as soon as they turn around. All they care about is showing that they hit a number and reduced a little more than whatever percentage they think they need to hit to get some accolades. Moving the same bad leaders around from UHC to Optum or vice versa just spreads out the tentacles. They don't keep any VP's that are not yes people or that challenge them, especially if someone was brave enough to do it in front of others. Claims is the perfect example. All the good UHC claim leaders are gone now and the same fate is in store for the Optum ECS/Claim dept.
@c0 agreed !
fire all 300+ vp level throughout uhg. Massive savings on the books and the business will thrive.
Reads like a LLM word salad. Which teams? What lawsuits?
When you say WellMed VPs, are they people with WellMed VP titles or UHG VP titles? WellMed VPs usually have Director UHG titles
Good as there are a number of Optum VPs that are zero value add to the company.