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Impact to Gaudi, shores or Arc

The recent collaboration between Nvidia and Intel is a complex strategic maneuver with significant implications for Intel's ambitions in AI and GPUs. It can be seen as both a smart move to leverage its core strength (x86) and a potential risk to its own competing product lines.
Here's a breakdown of the key considerations:
A Sign of x86 Expansion and Reinforcement

  • Playing to its Strengths: The partnership allows Intel to lean into its most dominant position: the x86 CPU and its vast ecosystem. By building custom x86 CPUs for Nvidia's data center platforms, Intel is solidifying its role as the "head node" for AI workloads. Even in a GPU-accelerated world, a CPU is still required to manage the system and run the operating system, and Intel's x86 processors are the default choice in most data centers.
  • IDM 2.0 and Foundry Services: This deal is a major win for Intel's IDM 2.0 strategy, which aims to make Intel a leading foundry for other companies. Manufacturing custom x86 chips for Nvidia, a major customer and the market leader in AI, is a massive vote of confidence in Intel's manufacturing capabilities.
  • Expanding Market Reach: The collaboration on consumer-level "x86 RTX SoCs" with integrated Nvidia GPU chiplets allows Intel to offer a more compelling product in the growing AI PC market. This could help Intel regain some of the market share lost to AMD in gaming and high-performance laptops. It's a way to integrate a world-class GPU into its x86 platform without having to design one from scratch for every product line.
    A Risk to Intel's AI Accelerator and GPU Ambitions
  • Competitive Headwind for Gaudi: The collaboration poses a direct, existential risk to Intel's Gaudi AI accelerator line. If Nvidia is using custom Intel CPUs for its AI platforms, it suggests that Nvidia believes the optimal solution involves pairing its GPUs with a customized x86 CPU, not with a competing AI accelerator like Gaudi. While Intel's Gaudi has shown strong performance and price-to-performance metrics, it has a tiny market share compared to Nvidia's overwhelming dominance. This partnership could signal that Intel is prioritizing its foundry business and its core x86 platform over the uphill battle of competing directly with Nvidia's GPUs.
  • Potential for Cannibalization: The "x86 RTX SoC" product for PCs could cannibalize demand for Intel's own discrete Arc GPUs. While Intel is still developing Arc, the deal gives them a compelling alternative to offer PC manufacturers and consumers who want a powerful, integrated solution with a market-leading GPU. This could reduce the incentive for Intel to continue investing heavily in its own consumer-level GPU designs.
  • Shifting Focus: While Intel has consistently stated its commitment to both Gaudi and Arc, a deep partnership with the market leader in both of those areas could lead to a strategic shift. Intel may decide that its primary role in the AI ecosystem is to be the foundational CPU provider and a leading foundry, rather than a direct competitor to Nvidia in every market segment.
    In conclusion, the partnership is a double-edged sword. It's a pragmatic and low-risk move that leverages Intel's core strengths, reinforces its IDM 2.0 strategy, and gives it access to the most powerful AI ecosystem. However, it also creates a direct and formidable competitor to its own in-house AI and GPU products, potentially signaling a de-emphasis on those ventures in favor of a more strategic, and perhaps more profitable, partnership with the market leader.

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Post ID: @OP+1k5emezfy

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No Gaudis were sold. Less than $100k. Very bad product that requires BIOS tweaks badly or it will give low perf

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Post ID: @bq+1k5emezfy

Did we not use Gaudis in our AI cloud ?? Is that cr-p selling ?

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Post ID: @bf+1k5emezfy

RIP Gaudi 😂. LMAO it was cr-p anyway...🤣

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Post ID: @b9+1k5emezfy

Intel Xe / Arc is not going anywhere, Intel x86 + NVidia RTX CPUs will not replace Intel + Xe CPUs and Intel Arc DGPUS.

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Post ID: @aa+1k5emezfy

5 billion - yes

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Post ID: @a9+1k5emezfy

Where has it been stated Foundry will do this work? The Reuters article clearly states otherwise

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Post ID: @a8+1k5emezfy

Intel brand of CPU, GPU will be gone soon.

It is good for Nvidia to use Intel to slow down its pace. It will give more time for China to catch up.

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Post ID: @a6+1k5emezfy

Dell is now offering Gaudi 3 so much like ARC, the progress is dirt slow but it just keeps crawling along.

I don't think Intel is exiting the GPU business, they are simply staying out of the way of NVDA.

This gets to the inherent conflict of trying to run an IDM foundry, not saying that ProdCo would suddenly be tearing up NVDA if Foundry were independent, but the company has publicly stated they want to do what is needed to get big tech foundry business.

For the good of all involved, IFS needs to be broken up (selling all the older fabs) and spun out (EUV fabs and TD). Intel can keep the pct needed to avoid having the gov't exercise their warrant but until this happens ProdCo is going to be prevented from even attempting to directly compete with any of the potential IFS customers.

Because it is the right thing to do, I expect LBT to do just that.

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Post ID: @a5+1k5emezfy

more slop

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Post ID: @a4+1k5emezfy

slop

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Post ID: @a3+1k5emezfy

No, Intel hasn't lost the architectural battle, but it's not a clear win either. The situation is more nuanced, as Intel is navigating multiple architectural fronts simultaneously.
The x86 Architecture Battle ⚔️
Intel's core strength remains the x86 architecture, which it co-owns and has refined for decades. In the PC and server markets, x86 still holds a dominant position, with Intel and AMD controlling the vast majority of the market. This is a battle Intel has won, largely due to:

  • Legacy and Software Compatibility: For decades, x86 was the only viable option for many applications, creating a massive ecosystem of software and developer expertise that is difficult to abandon.
  • Continuous Innovation: Despite its age, x86 has evolved. Both Intel and AMD have added new instruction sets and features, making it highly performant for a wide range of workloads.
    However, x86 is now facing new challenges from ARM-based processors. Companies like Apple, Amazon Web Services (AWS), and Nvidia are using ARM for specific workloads, especially in mobile, cloud computing, and AI, where ARM's power efficiency is a key advantage. While ARM has made inroads, it has not displaced x86 in the data center or PC market as a whole. Instead, the market is becoming a hybrid environment where x86 and ARM coexist, each optimized for different tasks.
    The GPU and AI Accelerator Battle 🥊
    This is a different and more challenging battle for Intel. In the world of AI, Nvidia's GPUs are the undisputed leader, with an estimated 80-90% market share for AI accelerators. Nvidia's dominance is not just about its hardware but also its software ecosystem, particularly CUDA, which has made it the default platform for AI development.
    Intel's attempts to compete directly with Nvidia in this space—with its Gaudi AI accelerators and Arc GPUs—have had limited success. Gaudi is competitive in some performance metrics and often offers a better price-to-performance ratio, but it struggles with market adoption due to Nvidia's established ecosystem. Similarly, Intel's Arc GPUs have been positioned as a viable, affordable alternative for gamers but have a very small market share.
    The Nvidia-Intel collaboration can be seen as Intel's acknowledgment of its uphill battle in the AI and GPU space. Instead of a direct "x86 vs. GPU" confrontation, Intel is leveraging its strength in x86 and its manufacturing capabilities (IDM 2.0) to partner with Nvidia. This allows Intel to participate in the booming AI market as a key supplier rather than a direct competitor.
    In this context, Intel hasn't "lost" a battle, but it has made a strategic decision to avoid a head-on collision in a market where it is severely disadvantaged. The partnership is a sign of a new strategy: securing its place as the foundational x86 provider for an ecosystem increasingly dominated by GPUs, even if they are made by its biggest rival.
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Post ID: @a2+1k5emezfy

More Kool Aid for the masses.
Don't worry about those layoffs.

Rinse / Repeat.

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