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Confused on RTO After Enrique's AEM - Here is the Clarification

According to the AEM guidelines, in-office presence is based on business needs rather than a strict requirement. The "three days per week" guideline is flexible and intended as general guidance. Your manager may request more or fewer days in the office depending on team needs.

Time spent in the office can be minimal, even as little as one hour, and arrival time is flexible unless you are expected to attend a scheduled meeting. Once that obligation is fulfilled, you are free to leave.

If you prefer or need to attend meetings virtually while in the office, for example due to health concerns or other personal reasons, that is also acceptable.

In practice, this means I will go into the office, find an available desk, join the meeting virtually from there, and then leave once it is concluded.


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@b5 My director is remote and is considering moving to a core site. Your statement seems true from what I have been hearing.

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Post ID: @c9+1k4yz8p5t

So glad I got a package 3 months ago. My team is global with no in Houston. Would have been pointless to go in. I doubt my manager would have cared but if so definitely would have coffee badged.

I was fortunate and found a great job that pays well above what I got at HP.

Hopefully others are just as lucky with HPs continued WFRs and this tactic of forcing people back (in order to force people to leave).

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Post ID: @bj+1k4yz8p5t

My manager made it clear that being located at a non-core site significantly limits my chances for promotion. The rest of my team is based in TEX, while I am the only one at a different location.

She also mentioned that if I see a long-term future with HP, I would need to consider relocating at my own expense. However, if I’m simply waiting for a WFR, then staying where I am would be acceptable. As a Director, she emphasized that this is her perspective on the situation. Given her level of influence over my career path, I have to treat her viewpoint as a realistic assessment.

Can someone confirm this is true or false? I am getting the same answer from everyone to talk to my Director.

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Post ID: @b5+1k4yz8p5t

Where do you get the idea that 3 day minimum is optional based on business needs. I don't see that in the policy or based on the AEM discussion. With the exception of sites that only have capacity for 2 days minimum.

The policy clearly talks about start and end date flexibility and that you just need to cover "core" working hours. So why confusion?

Depending the site you are at and how relaxed you manager is coffee badging might get you on the "list". And may be setting yourself up for direct termination rather than wfr with severance.

I feel like in the beginning we will need to play the game and do a normal day for the three days. After a few quarters everyone will go back to old habits and no one will notice less days or short days onsite. But they may pull out badge swipe tracking as a reason to let you go at anytime.

Do what you need to do to for yourself. But don't kid yourself into thinking this formal policy implementation and core site designation is not to get out of severance either by people to leaving on their own or termination for misconduct or breach of contract without severance.

BTW I am at a non core site with no one on my team to interact with when I go in. It I literally useless for me to go in. Unless I want to relocate, I have no possibility of promotion or job change since they won't hire at my site anymore. I am basically on death row based on this policy. I just need to play the game until they give me a package hopefully sooner rather than later.

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