Thread regarding ViacomCBS layoffs

@ay True adults - especially "leaders" know how to read the room and culture of a company. True adults understand times and circumstances change and to stay put or worse, go backwards will result in bad business results.

RTO for 5 days is an archaic and outdated way of viewing work (and I say this as someone on who is borderline Boomer/GenX). For years, we were told technology was supposed to make it easier for us to stay connected and do our jobs. The last 5 years has proven this to be true.

Collaboration and brainstorming can be accomplished in a hybrid model with people being in the office 2-3 days a week. Many departments and divisions have work which is individualized and not necessarily suitable for collab outside of a weekly meeting.

I am more productive being remote (as is my team) than ever being in the office.

But OK, we'll do it.

Go back to 5 days week in the office where execs (especially in LA) are never in before 10-11am due to kids drop off at schoo/daycare/traffic "breakfast meeting" and leaving my 3pm for the same in reverse.

Or people spending hours online shopping and reading various internet boards

Or disappearing for hours at a time while leaving there desk looking like they'll be right back.

No more answering emails while I'm getting ready for my commute or while on the train/bus in the morning. No more of the same when I'm on my way out.

No more eating lunch at my desk.

Feeling sick or doctor's appointment? Taking a sick day on not responding.

PTO? The same.

I do believe this is Daddy/Shell/Redbird & Bain in DE's ear and not necessarily pushing the idea.

So many plants, wow.

The most desperate people will stay, those with true talent will leave, and the new hires will be even worse - more desperate and proably not as highly skilled because who wants to work five days in the office? haha

I'm part of a team of over 40+, and I'd say the general consensus is that everyone would prefer not to come in on 5 days. As soon as this was announced, I heard team members saying they'd quit once this is implemented.

We are too used to hybrid. Too used to this way of life where it's somewhat balanced. I can't imagine going back to 5. Seems unreal to me when I think back to those times.

@cm - we have a lot of people that aren't smart - those people will just be in the office more - really failing to see your logic in bringing in underperformers or people not serious about work back to the office - as if their core work ethic will change.

@ay how about you go in six - seven days a week and let us know how your productivity is off the charts and how your mental health is great, bc five days just doesn't seem enough for you.

@cm kudos to the c-suite for planting posts like these

Excited for RTO. I can’t tell you how many times I couldn’t get ahold of someone because they were at a PTA meeting, checking out a kid’s college,, changing diapers etc. They make the people, who take their jobs seriously work much harder.
This is a great way to trim the fat and keep the people who want to do the work.

Probably an accurate take. This method identifies the complainers. they can self-select out of the workforce. Do you remember seeing large numbers of people in office doing nothing? They have sat at home doing even less while feeling busy and stressed out. If you are actually productive here, you are going to succeed.

If enough people take the voluntary lay off maybe I’ll keep my job

@ay no, just go back a few hundred years and you'd probably be working on your own farm aka wfh.

Guess civilization can never progress past an arbitrary amount of days (5) and hours (40), no matter how much more productive we are now versus even 2019.

@ay found the middle manager. just because your career is meaningless and your home life is he-l doesn't mean the rest of us are having such problems.

This is also part of the one big beautiful bill and credits companies get when their employees are in office like around childcare, transportation etc. part the emphasis for companies to revert back to such model.

@ay you're acting like having a good work-life balance is childish. It isn't. Sorry your life at home is awful, but don't make it our problem.

Going to work is not a scheme. It’s literally how it’s been done for millennia. Most people in the world do it everyday. It’s time for people to act like adults.

you're preaching to the choir here, but agreed.