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VETS E-O

I have been reflecting on my experiences with the Veterans E-O, and I must express some growing concerns about its current direction. It appears that the group has increasingly become populated and even led by individuals who are not military veterans themselves. Many of these participants prominently feature their pronouns in their profiles and communications—I think of them as "pronoun people." We all know who they are. While I respect diverse viewpoints and personal expressions, and I haven't observed any overt discussions of unrelated topics within the group, this shift seems to have transformed the E-O from a dedicated space for veterans into something more broadly "inclusive" in a way that dilutes its original purpose.

I truly wish that these affinity groups, which are marketed as supportive communities for specific employee demographics, would reconsider the extent of their inclusivity. In this case, the emphasis on welcoming everyone—regardless of direct relevance—has inadvertently created an environment that feels less focused on the unique needs and shared experiences of those who have served in the military. As a result, this over-inclusiveness has personally deterred me from engaging more actively; I find myself reluctant to attend events, contribute to discussions, or propose new ideas, as the group's composition no longer feels centered on veteran-specific matters like career transitions, mental health support, or advocacy for service-related benefits.

That said, I can't help but wonder if it's unreasonable for me to desire a more exclusive setting where I can connect solely with my fellow veteran brothers and sisters. After all, the core value of such groups lies in fostering authentic camaraderie and mutual understanding among those with firsthand military experience. Perhaps implementing measures like veteran status verification for leadership roles or core activities could help restore that balance without entirely excluding supportive allies. I'd appreciate hearing from others who might share similar sentiments or have suggestions for addressing this in a constructive manner.


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You’re a DEI hire if you’re a veteran and you’re dissing other DEIs? It is better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid then open it and remove all doubt.

First-person pronouns in your message:
• I – 9 times
• me – 1
• my – 2
• myself – 1

Subtotal: 13

Third-person pronouns
• it – 3
• its – 1
• they – 0
• them – 1
• their – 2
• who – 2
• we – 1
• he / she / him / her – 0
• those – 2

Subtotal: 12

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Post ID: @mb+1k4aes00x

If you are a veteran, then step up and lead. Lead the change you want to see. Take a seat at the board table and grab ahold of the power to drive the direction you want to see.

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Post ID: @fd+1k4aes00x

You gotta be kidding me. Hold on, just because people have pronouns by their names makes them not aligned to veterans? The E-O is too inclusive? LOL. I think you have other issues than the inclusiveness of the employee resource group.

While I deeply appreciate your service, verifying vet status to join isn't going to happen. That's PII and too many legal issues for Cisco. What's next, the PRIDE group only accepts g-y people and it must be verified by their mom?

If you are looking for a vet exclusive group, you need to go outside of Cisco or start another E-O exclusively for vets (which don't waste your time, Cisco will never do it). This happened with Women of Cisco, the tech women felt they had very different needs so they started another E-O for technical women. However, non technical people with pronouns by their name can join.

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Post ID: @fc+1k4aes00x

This is similar to when SY took over as lead of the Black Employee Resource Group. He's as far away from that as you can get.

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Post ID: @fa+1k4aes00x

A company-organized affinity group for veterans or any other group can't/won't exclude anyone who wants to join, regardless of their characteristics. This isn't a Cisco-specific thing. If you're looking for exclusivity, you need to find/start a private group untethered to any company.

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Post ID: @e4+1k4aes00x

these are just feel-good efforts for PR so Cisco can more easily approach Federal customers like DoD

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