Thread regarding Dell Inc. layoffs

This is the Story of Damon Duncan, a sales engineer (Business Insider)

This as-told-to essay is based on conversations with 49-year-old Damon Duncan, who is based in Atlanta. His identity and salary have been verified by Business Insider. This conversation has been edited for length and clarity.

  • Damon Duncan, a 49-year-old former sales engineer, took a drastic pay cut after he was laid off.
  • Duncan's salary dropped from $148,000 to $52,000, impacting his family's lifestyle.
  • Despite applying to hundreds of jobs, Duncan is struggling to re-enter the technical sales field.

Damon Duncan, a 49-year-old former sales engineer, took a drastic pay cut after he was laid off.

Duncan was laid off in 2023 and again in 2024. Since then, he has taken an entry-level position with significantly less pay.

Duncan’s salary dropped from $148,000 to $52,000, a change that has deeply impacted his family’s lifestyle. Despite applying to hundreds of jobs, he continues to struggle to re-enter the technical sales field.

This as-told-to essay is based on conversations with 49-year-old Damon Duncan, who is based in Atlanta. His identity and salary have been verified by Business Insider. This conversation has been edited for length and clarity.

I was laid off from my job as a sales engineer in April 2023. That was the last job I had in my career field.

It has now been more than two years since I worked in technical sales. I took a couple of related roles after my company went through a merger, but I was laid off for a second time in August 2024. I remained unemployed until I finally took a drastic step back — both in position and in pay.

I went from being a sales engineer, an architect, and an account executive to working at a consulting firm in an entry-level cold-calling job.

The majority of the people I work with are fresh out of college. When I sit with them in the common room, they’ll say things like, "This is my first big boy job fresh out of college," while I’m sitting there, almost 50 years old, with a child about to go to college myself.

It came with a massive pay cut

I now make about one-third of what I earned at my sales engineering job. At my former role, my base salary was $148,000, but now it is $52,000.

The layoff cost us a lot of money, and because of it, we don’t travel anymore. Our credit also took a massive hit, and we weren’t able to cosign on a loan for our daughter to attend college. She decided to take a gap year and start at a local tech school instead, building savings and credit so she can eventually take out loans and transfer.

We’ve had to cancel a lot of services we used to rely on. Typically, we could hire people to handle big tasks, but now I take them on myself during weekends.

Instead of spending my weekends with my family, I spend them fixing things around the house — rebuilding a staircase, working on cars, painting rooms, replacing light fixtures, AC plugs, light switches, and other projects.

We couldn’t afford to repair my daughter’s car, so we had to get rid of it. Now we’re down to two cars instead of three. We often have to carpool, which isn’t the end of the world, but it’s inconvenient at times. My company also required employees to return to the office, which means I now spend two hours a day commuting — one hour each way.

All of this has affected my family immensely.

I no longer understand the market

I’m trying to get back into the field that supported me for most of my 20-year career, but nobody is hiring me or even interviewing me seriously.

Since being laid off in 2023, I’ve applied to hundreds of jobs. I did receive one offer last year, but it was rescinded because of company changes. Other than that, I’ve had some interviews, but I’ve never made it to the acceptance stage.

I still apply to anywhere between two and five jobs a day.

No matter how I update my résumé or how much outreach I do, it feels pointless. I’ve followed every piece of advice — networking, customizing applications, everything. But it feels like throwing darts at paper, hoping one lands. I don’t understand the market anymore. It doesn’t make sense.

I’m doing this current job because I have bills to pay and a family to provide for. I’m stuck where I am until I can hopefully find another opportunity.

I have a feeling people assume I’m too expensive because of my experience, or that I’ll immediately leave once I find something better. But they don’t realize that I’m applying to these jobs not only because they’re in my field, but also because I view them as possible careers.

I don’t need just a job. I’m not 20 anymore. I need a career. I have three kids — one about to go to college, and two more following. I’ve got weddings to pay for in the future. Realistically, I’ll be working until I’m 80. What I need is stability.

Ageism may also be at play

I suspect some of this difficulty comes down to ageism. But older workers bring wisdom and experience. We’re not flashy, but we’re reliable.

People like me, Gen Xers, know how to be scrappy. I’m working an entry-level job right now despite having 24 years of experience. If that doesn’t prove my willingness to work hard and adapt, I don’t know what does.

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Alter your hopes and dreams and accept the way it is. You wont be paying tuition or weddings,so just face facts. After being over payed you are lucky to be employed. It wont last long. It is what it is

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Post ID: @111+1k3p4k9vj

Sending good luck to Damon.

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Post ID: @my+1k3p4k9vj

$148k for a pre-sales engineer? Underpaid. With just a couple of years of experience he should have been in the $225k to $250k range.

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Post ID: @gv+1k3p4k9vj

@bf nice way to make this thread about you.

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Post ID: @dh+1k3p4k9vj

NGL here... Sorry but, if he was making that kinda money at Dell pre-layoff, then he either bullpooped his way to that salary, lied his butt off on his resume/interview, or stuck around for WAY too long to get up to the mid 6 figures.

Doesn't sound like he had any REAL skills/knowledge/certifications to propell him into that salary range again because, if I were to be laid off tomorrow? I could very easily get another job paying the same salary, or more, than what I'm currently making. I have skills, experience, certifications/education, etc... that is valuable to companies.

I've also "future proofed" myself in that I learn and gain new skills and knowledge - such as AI for example - to make myself marketable in the future. Way too many people get complacent in their current role and while they may excel at it, never think to advance their skills and knowledge BEYOND what they are currently doing.

Then when you are laid off, you get mixed in with the millions of other people who have your same knowledge, experience, expertise. Gotta make yourself standout with SOMETHING.

If you are in IT, go learn AI and get a cert or two in that. For netsec, go get a CISSP, a GIAC cert, OSCP, or some type of difficult and harder to obtain cert that most of your competition WONT have. But in regards to netsec... SEC+ aint gonna get you far these days lol. Which is why I have dell pay for my 10k SANS certs lol. And my OSCP cert...

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Post ID: @bf+1k3p4k9vj

But don't worry - Dell is one of the most ethical companies, they would never put profit over their employees...

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Post ID: @be+1k3p4k9vj

This is corporate brainwashing. They want you to believe your only option after a layoff is to accept scraps, work twice as hard, and feel ‘lucky’ just to have a seat. It’s designed to keep employees chained to their desks, while the real rewards go straight to shareholders. It’s not about talent or effort, it’s about control.

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Post ID: @bd+1k3p4k9vj

Imagine how a layoff would affect those of us that Dell only deems worthy of $55k/year. This man had to make some lifestyle adjustments. If/when Dell lays me off, I'll likely lose my house.

Also it's not a big deal for your kids to have to pay for their own college. It might teach them a thing or two about budgeting and personal responsibility.

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Post ID: @b4+1k3p4k9vj

Stories like these (while I’m sure are true and common) also feel like corporate propaganda to make us “appreciate” the jobs we have or the offers being made. CEOs are still furious about the “quiet quitting” phenomenon from a few years back, so they’re running a campaign to regain their power and make us too scared to demand fair treatment and appropriate compensation. Maybe I’m wrong, but it definitely feels like a narrative of fear is being pushed around here.

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Post ID: @b3+1k3p4k9vj

Wow, that’s a scary story. I feel blessed that the two times I lost my job at Dell, I was able to get good jobs paying roughly what I was making before, in about 9 months.

Probably the only criticism I have of what he’s been doing is - rather than 2-5 job applications every day, he’d be better off doing one or two every other day and really put a lot of work into each one. Customize a resume for that specific company and role.

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Post ID: @b2+1k3p4k9vj

If he'd invested in NVDA and DELL stock then he'd be anle to retire already.

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Post ID: @ag+1k3p4k9vj

Good article. Unfortunately maybe more and more people supporting a family will be in the similar situation, and the glorious years of IT job market are already in the rearview mirror.

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Post ID: @a6+1k3p4k9vj

If people don't already understand the magnitude of the situation, what is happening now and has been happening since the great financial crisis is companies are looking to downsize and replace you. If you think you can maintain a lifestyle like the one described, you are totally lost. There have been ample warnings over the years if people bothered to listen. The state cannot support your kids. I do not want to support your kids via extra taxes. You'll need to make other plans. You need to live well within your means. If that means moving in with parents or relatives, so be it. This situation will not be getting better anytime soon.

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Post ID: @a3+1k3p4k9vj

No to be insensitive but it sounds like he and his family lived beyond their means and check to check. so it was a bo-b waiting to explode.

daughter does not need college. paying for services you can do yourself. maintenance upkeep on a house does not have to be a solo endeavor. it could be a family paint-off. teach the children how to work on basic fixtures. etc.

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