It is time to now seriously end or severely curtail the H1B program. We need more Americans at work and giving excuses like skills not present in America with AI should not be tolerated any longer
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MFers in here busting up even the idea of a union. You all really just want to be slaves to corporations and are fighting over which nationality gets to lick the boot more
@fn Education is a bigger issue - just looked at the % of STEM Graduate students that are "international" students for all the major Universities in US for the last 40 years. There just not enough US citizens were coming out of pipeline. If you lived in one of those high housing cost neighborhoods in California, your view maybe skewed by the dominating academic savvy students in the high schools there (btw, dominated by Asia American) but in nation's average - it is still very small and declining.
The reason? Cost of colleges and Culture - In the majority of the Asian family, parents worked their butts off to get their kids into better colleges and ensured they came out debit free.
The majority of the so-called H1B contractors will just be replaced by off-shore workers. For companies like CISCO, that is even cheaper. In today's env, the collaboration tools and infrastructures are fully capable of making the cross geo groups vey efficient. Yes, the so-called "Leaders" will need to sacrifice his/her time on doing early morning or late night meetings/calls.
Just face it, from India to China and now to Eastern Europe - there is never a shortage of cheap options. You think there will be massive hiring because of end of H1B is just a unrealistic dream...
Send all H1B Indians back home. No visa conversions. No H4 work authorization.
@fn+1k3kf5p0n 100%
America used to be the land of "can do". We sent a man to the moon, we created DARPANET, we used to innovate and pioneer technologies and solutions that changed the world. Other countries would look to us for guidance. We were the (imperfect) beacon of democracy around the world.
Now we seem like the land of "that's too hard" and would rather tune out to the whims of some bullchit reality show about fictional people living in a fictional world that is heavily scripted and disconnected from reality.
America wastes too much time glorifying it's past while the future dries up. Our public schools are constantly d-mbed down so people continue passing and the states receive money.
Even in Silicon Valley, the so-called brain trusts are being misused. Talent is being used to develop the latest mobile apps to corrupt our attention spans or make our lives convenient. Meanwhile seasonal weather patterns continue to intensify, and there microplastics inside of oceans, our food, and us.
What good is convenience if you're slowly dying inside and our world is such a polluted hellscape full of consumers who would rather be distracted from reality by their phones than engage people in real life?
The real problem is education... currently students see the football/basketball/baseball players, they see the tv/movie personalities, the singers, rappers etc. all put on a pedestal. No one puts scientists, doctors, engineers up there for kids to emulate. To add to it, the education system is treated like an inconvenience. The entire country's future depends on education yet these mo--ns treat it like a burden. And then once a feeble, completely unready generation gets out of the pathetic education system, the greed sc-m in c-suites complain that they are not up to par and lobby to bring more foreigners into the country due to lack of talent. Seriously, every departments budget needs to be trimmed and sent over to education.. if we start now, we'll see returns in a decade. Otherwise USA will only have 2 career paths; gambling (Including Wall street here) and prost---tion.
We need the 50% tariff on services in India.
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Employee union won't solve anything... we might have to look into past to see what real problems Employee unions really solved in past... mostly nothing.. everything is political and your elected union leader will be bought... and leaves common man crying as usual ... pls grow up.
No workers union ! Private companies and greedy CEOs are running the show like mafia bosses.
Employee union can fix a lot of these bad policies. It can’t fix everything but atleast employees will have a voice.
What about China? China buys a lot of oil from Russia ?
IP theft is rampant by international H1-B holders from China. They have built an economy by IP theft and reverse engineering.
All these students and H1-B holders are here to learn about American technology and learning all the technologies. They are stealing all the IP.
50% tariff on India starts today. Nice!
@cz Chambers was using the term "Globalization Center West" and "Globalization Center East" 15 years ago to describe moving engineering to India and China.
Here's a new acronym... GCC, global capabilities center. That's the latest C suite speak for "laying off American workers while setting up shop in India".
@OP No, if reduce H1B for any company, the headcount hired in the US will be significantly reduced, everybody knows that no company really like to hire American. If one day come you create a company and run it by yourself, you will immediately understand what this means and will definitely hire ore foreigners not American.
Did semiconductor industry remain in USA after they outsourced everything to Taiwan?
We have enough undegraduates in computer science and engineering within USA. No need of H1-B !
With H1 the American money majorly remains in USA, the jobs will go be outsourced otherwise.
Yes, 100%. End H1B and outsourcing and Make High Tech Great Again!
H1-B is used by many Asian companies to import their Asian employees and fill up jobs in USA for low cost.
Private companies are also involved in hiring these contractors. This is the main abuse of H1-B visas.
AI cannot do everything. Stop believing the BS being propagated by Ai startups and executives. They have put in billions of dollars into it.
It may be useful in certain areas but not every where. We don’t need training and inference in every thing we do and announce we are into AI. Most of the returns after investing millions is laughable.
Don't worry, AI is going to get rid of not only H1B's but also YOU and ME.
Good luck. Cisco will just straight up outsource the job to another country before hiring more Americans. Just look at TAC in the US. Most who leave TAC in the US are not backfilled in the US but are backfilled in another country.
As the layoffs of US employees and migration of workflows to offshore and H1B employees continues under the guise of "investing in AI", the unrest towards the H1B program continues to increase.
Funny how the world works.
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