Thread regarding Optum layoffs

Run. Average raise 1.5 percent. Inflation 15%. You loose every single year. Oh and health insurance premiums here are sky high.

Don't waste your time working here.

What Run Forrest Run said.
It's toxic.
Cloud is a joke. If you're not in the Enterprise 'club', meaning the enterprise engineering department, you're a pawn.
If you start any less than a G29, you're a minion and in the U.S. that means replaceable at a moment's notice.
If what you create has value, it will be stolen from you and you'll never get credit.
How do I know? I created many things there only to have credit for my work taken, claimed on two town halls and then threatened by the CISO for speaking out.
Glad to have been laid off.

Last CIO of 36 years, could not mentor his replacement (maybe he never wanted an internal threat). Outsider M&M guy is now at the helm, and luckily he feels like a competent guy. God save thy empire!

Cloud @Optum is the best standup comedy available!! Top guys don't want it, for their job security and fat checks...nuff said , don't walk, Run Run Rudolph. Its still an IBM sponsored Mainframe+old school shop.

The tech stack is not what you need to concern yourself with. Here's what working at Optum is like if you're a software eng. I was a lead SE a few years back...

1. Job security: Are you in the U.S.? You're an expense. If your salary is anywhere close to 'fair market value', there is a good chance your job will be on the list to be outsourced to India, or maybe elsewhere. This company is making money hand-over-fist, but thousands of 'onshore' (read: local to the USA) jobs have been outsourced to cheaper countries.

2. Tech stack - your original question. It was old and outdated, Java on the front, an old Netezza DB on the back end (hence the need to shift to the cloud). NO ONE had a clue about the 'cloud'. I was located in a smaller office and getting help to understand the app I was working on was about as easy as pulling the teeth from an alligator. The onshore help (located in 3 US cities) was largely clueless, and I had one good guy in India who knew the app pretty well, but it was always me coming in early (about 6 am) or him staying late to try to sync up. Be prepared for that.

3. Culture: OMG where to begin. There were some good managers within Optum, but I encountered a minority that were BEYOND toxic and made working there absolute he-l. I worked with two with Sr. Managers in located a different office. It was like working with rude, narcissistic, petulant children that would literally yell and throw fits if you told them something they didn't want to hear. They never worked with the team, they always forced their agenda on us, despite having little to no understanding of how software development really works. They would demand time-wasting reports to try and prove that the team wasn't working hard enough and the dates demanded by them for the project to be done (despite the fact we were supposed to be agile, not waterfall) were not going to be met. In the span of 6 months, we went through five scrum masters because no one could or would work with them. One of the managers would literally call the scrum masters on their personal phone and berate them for an hour about her methods and deliverables.

When the managers' dates (not the ones the development team said were anywhere close to realistic) were missed, the team in my city was decimated and almost everyone was laid off without a single scratch on the manager's record -- although the one manager quit because a new director called them out on their BS and she, (having no real skill other than yelling at people and telling them that she's holds an MBA) decided to quit. The other clown is still there and has been promoted twice, largely to helping another Sr. Dir outsource more jobs to their home country -- you figure out where.

Still want to work here?