Thread regarding Ford layoffs

@OP. Look! I was proud to work at Ford, because it was a long way for me to get here. I am still proud of that. However, I know the company is heading towards the iceberg, and the "leadership" is just adding more coal to the engine. It doesn't make me happy. Did I open my mouth and spoke my mind when the company pivoted from hybrids to BEVs? Yes, I did. Nobody cared, and the FMC Titanic started going straight for the BEV iceberg.

At one point, I shut up. Why spend my time and efforts advising people who don't want to listen? My name is not on the side of the building, nor on the logo of the company. I get paid to do my job, and that's exactly what I do and what I receive. That's all: just a business transaction. If someone wants my opinion, just needs to ask me. But I won't provide it no more without being asked.

That doesn't mean I am crooked, nor that I lack integrity. Simply put, it is the logical response to stupidity. I cannot fix the world because there are many stoopid people in it, and that's fine. Where they crawl, I jump. Life is good (not really, but I am trying).

@ag

This is literally the work evil psychopaths whose sole goal is the power of inflicting suffering and death on others.

Ford is a small piece of what's going on right now.

@ap While I enjoy your more optimistic take, I have been burned and taken advantage of for my kindness way too many times to afford that sort of mindset. I used to be the type that told myself it was better to continue being the kind do the right thing person even when someone abuses you, do good and people will treat you good. All I learned and experienced was the worst of people, and treating others good led to people abusing what you'll do for them, even good people can be terrible. I didn't grow up Christian, my culture believes in revenge, so I have no qualms holding onto grudges or having deep memories of times people sc--w you then gaslight, or avoid you, hoping you forgot only to return when you stop bringing it up, thinking you "got over your little fit". If I was giving advice to a friend, I would tell them that still forgiving people while in my position is naive and not learning from their mistakes. The only optimism I fake on a daily basis is to stay sober and to avoid the s* ideation.

My time at Ford so far as an engineer. Work is often easy to moderately complex. The biggest issue is that there are often too many cooks in the kitchen. People tend to muddy the water and make my life a living he-l. Constant overtalk in meetings and countless worthless meetings a plenty, people trying to sound all high amd mighty and plenty who don't want to lose face. Often by overcomplicating things to the max end bs FEDE requirements that have little to no impact on solving recalls. To add, the antiquated process and constant churn blows big time. I have more bad days then good. I'll also add that Ford has a bad habit of promoting people into management who are not qualified.

Due to this, am I proud to work at Ford? No and am I looking for a new job. Yes

@ar Under-performing or talented individuals with self respect that set the bar too high for managers to meet?

Several underperforming employees at Ford ADVEV (Skunkworks) have been fired over the past year. We set a high bar and expectations, and it doesn't take much to be let go.

If you're not proud to be part of the product that will define our company's future, then you should be prepared for a Performance Improvement Plan (PIP) and dismissal if not met.

Before I joined Ford, I was an ENFJ-T. After I left Ford, I was an INFJ.

@an In a better world, yeah

@am+1k2zmnn61 When I would spend time overseas, I'd go out w/ cousins and go where they'd go. Some places, weren't the safest for an American born citizen who spoke the countries language fluently w/ a noticeable American accent. We can get robbed or kidnapped and held for ransom. Happened to many of my family members. Even while I was there. Hammer pulled back and everything. That was a good reason for me to keep my mouth shut while we were out in public.

The risk feels heavy, I know, but it’s not the same kind of danger. Silence protected me there. Here, it just hides what might need to be said. You're not running from lions and tigers, things are safer. Speaking your truth is the most liberating feeling you could have. Of course, it might have a cost. Setting a tone early is much better than forever remaining silent once you're truly stuck.

Relevant quote below:

"There’s a completely rational frame on why you should be an optimist. Historically, if you go back 2,000 years, 5,000 years, 10,000 years, two people are wandering through a jungle, they hear a tiger. One’s an optimist, and says, “Oh, it’s not headed our way.” The other one says, “I’m a pessimist, I’m out of here.” And the pessimist runs and survives, and the optimist gets eaten.

So, we’re descended from pessimists. We’re genetically hardwired to be pessimists. But modern society is far, far safer. There are no tigers wandering around the street. It’s very unlikely that you will end up in total ruin, although you should avoid total ruin." - Naval Ravikant

@am Work only follows you home if you take it home.

@aa I'm slightly autistic and was not allowed to speak up in my family, so not the charismatic public speaker type. Rather go unnoticed so that work does not follow you home.

@aj ma'am, this is, in fact, not a Wendy's

He broils! He steams! He fries! He does it all!

@ag They may break my ankles, but my spirit is never hurt. I remember where I came from, I already won.

Backward "f_leadership" is to blame. The place is a structured pyramid with thick layers of shielded firewalls - the anology of the rich and the poor triangle. The rich are on la la land and the poor gets the bu=t5t whips. The top 4-5 layers have no clues about the bottom.

@ad To be clear I agree with not letting management own my integrity. They may take my job, but not my ethics or peace of mind. Accountability means to our own ethics and decisions. Never defy your moral compass.

@a5 We live by the g-n, die by the g-n. All to avoid the courage of falling on the sword. Accountability, not defiance, is what changes us.

@ab My professional work interferes with my personal life. I'm proud of my hobbies. I want to be proud of something that consumes 50-55 hours my week.

Sounds like a personal problem. Get a hobby.

@a6 Why do you think people won't care about your message? I don't know who you are... but I care. You got an anonymous friend in me.

@a6 All things to all people is deception

No honor amongst thieves

@a3 I was raised as a people pleaser, so I approach work behavior the same. Regardless of right or wrong, I’m not the personality type people would care about my message anyway lol

@a2 Congrats to the one who spoke up. Those with integrity still exist. I was taught that the highest standards of ethics and integrity must override in all relationships and transactions. Sure, you may live and die by this at times but it's great to be able to lay my head down each night in total peace. I NEVER answer to a manager or to anyone else. I have to live with ME and MY decisions. Not a manager or anyone else for that matter. ZZZzzzz.

@a2 Example was made

I don't want to make any enemies here so i keep my head down. Better than becoming a target. If someone is being hunted, I try to not get involved

They sent a strong message with the last one that spoke up here so now people suffer in silence