Thread regarding Ford layoffs

The American Car Industry Can’t Go On Like This

"Ford’s other EVs, including the F-150 Lightning and electric Mustang Mach-E, were heavily adapted from existing gas-powered models. Those vehicles are built by cobbling together a hodgepodge of individual components that evolved independently of one another over time, like a house that’s been slowly renovated several times across decades. Retrofitting a design for a big, expensive EV battery comes with all kinds of compromises, including high costs. Ford realized early on that it was spending billions of dollars on wiring, among other things that its competitors such as Tesla didn’t need to deal with, because their electric cars are purpose-built from the ground up. No wonder, then, that Ford’s electric division has racked up $2 billion in losses in just the first half of this year alone."

Sounds to me like Ford ties motivation to solving problems instead of thinking structurally and starting with nothing. That is also why Model e has its issues here. It's not California talent, it's tall poppy syndrome from others who want to play in the sandbox without bringing any toys with them... skill wise. Same team structures, same compensation discrimination, same cr--s in the bucket, same workplace mobbing, same participation or career-lore-maxers etc. heck, they even brought back human trafficking! Must've been part of the existing structure

Source: https://removepaywalls.com/https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2025/08/ford-china-electric-cars/683880/#google_vignette

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are you the same guy here Post ID: @cc6+1j

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Post ID: @ft+1k2qbkp8g

@e0 That's because Ford hires "flaws" and then lets those flaws incorporate their flaws into their vehicle designs and their management ranks. Birds of a feather flock together. Flies on a pile hang together for a while. A LONG while!

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Post ID: @e7+1k2qbkp8g

@bw You can usually go from Honda/Toyota to Ford and not get laughed at here, but I doubt the same in reverse. At least Ford accepts me for my flaws and punishes dissenters for being possible tattle-tales. My power network here is just too strong for my toes to be stepped on

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Post ID: @e0+1k2qbkp8g

@bv, you work at Ford, right? So this is your fault as well. Resign, go work for Honda or Toyota.

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Post ID: @bw+1k2qbkp8g

@bt I can count over 90 fiascos that are up to date for ford.

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Post ID: @bv+1k2qbkp8g

@be right, that v6 turbo engine fiasco, a lot of quality

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Post ID: @bt+1k2qbkp8g

bad take. repurposing existing parts and methods is genius. the batteries are just too expensive. what mo--n accountant thought that fewer parts automatically means less cost and same behavior / in-use performance vs. gas engine and transmission?

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Post ID: @bn+1k2qbkp8g

Buy Toyota or Honda. US brands are just not built with quality in mind , it is just build with fancy features and patriotic customers only, quality and price is last thing in mind

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Post ID: @be+1k2qbkp8g

Don't worry. It won't!

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Post ID: @b9+1k2qbkp8g

Bad take. Here’s more BEV issues.

BEVs are driving up insurance rates. Impacts can probably cause internal damage leading to shorts. Anything that scratch’s the battery case cause vehicle scrap. Because the battery is integral to the subframe. D-mb engineering. Fords new model T truck has a HPDC aluminum subframe just like Tesla cybertruck. Aluminum is difficult to repair if not impossible on a structural application. More scrap vehicles. Until solid state batteries are here the EV market is going no where. Sorry to all the Captain Planet fans.

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Post ID: @b8+1k2qbkp8g

You got it right, are you always so spot on? Thank you for the remove paywalls trick!

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Post ID: @b2+1k2qbkp8g

@op is spot on. To add to that Ford also has such little faith in their E products, they tarnish the legacy vehicle names of the Mustang, F-150 and now the Model T. So sad...

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Post ID: @as+1k2qbkp8g

This is exactly what CE1 is trying to address, we will see if it works.

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Post ID: @ag+1k2qbkp8g

Who cares? Buy a Toyota.

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Post ID: @af+1k2qbkp8g

Boeing of automotive

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