Thread regarding 3M layoffs

Why is IT just contacting everything out?

Over the past year or so, I've watched as IT leadership refuses to take on any work and instead insists that we should have third party agencies handle it.

I don't think it's a budgetary thing, because the agencies typically charge more than whatever tool or service is being proposed.

What gives?

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Murphy playbook…. Whatever you should do for customers and employees…. Do the opposite!

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Post ID: @5bg+1k1s9ct23

@hx Really no surprise the team I work on only has two 3mers the other 14 people are all contractors. It's a complete joke that they won't hire more employees. They seem to hire more external staff and the turnover is nuts because the pay is trash.

It's so much worse now because all vendors now have to go through an MSP/VMS system now which basically sets rate cards for all roles making any increases impossible. It was a cost saving measure. They are already paying hard for it with high turnover and having to constantly retrain new people.

But make the MSP/VMS system make sense when it rewards new hires and penalizes long term contractors. Long term contractors never get pay increases as pay is locked in from when they started. If market rate has significantly changed since you were hired you are fu---d they can't adjust the pay as it's set by the MSP for what was agreed to the day you were hired. They don't care that the market has changed apparently. Now make it make sense that if a new hire comes in that their pay will start at the market rate and often be higher then the people that have been there longer.

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Post ID: @489+1k1s9ct23

MM playbook because he doesn’t know how to lead and is incompetent. When you’re incompetent it’s easy to blame consultants so why not hire more consultants?

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Post ID: @36f+1k1s9ct23

Generally, it’s easier and cheaper to cut costs when it’s an external (outsourced) staff aug. Immediate flexibility to hit a number or target is possible versus employee based reduction actions.

No severance, paying out PTO, unemployment, legal reviews, employment support, etc. Just a notice period and an end.

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Post ID: @2vb+1k1s9ct23

@1e2

Exactly. Large swaths of this company struggle to properly function anymore while consultants laugh their way to the bank. The new era of leadership—all external—has no clue what to do.

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Post ID: @1ee+1k1s9ct23

All the expensive consultants convinced top level mgmt that most activities should be outsourced rather than entrusting them to 3M employees who actually understand the issues. And investing in new employees so that 3M is adequately resourced for the long term is of course always off the table.

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Post ID: @1e2+1k1s9ct23

IT, EHS, Engineering, you name it, it’s all effectively gone.

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Post ID: @1cz+1k1s9ct23

Just a thought… could it be because our internal IT is incompetent?

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Post ID: @nf+1k1s9ct23

It’s due to Smurphy sticking to industry norm formulas for %IT spend to revenue, etc.

  • Sub out development
  • Sub out support
  • Hire middle managers who fill out spreadsheets

Meanwhile, technical debt has piled so high it crippled innovation and any potential for Ai productivity gain.

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Post ID: @hy+1k1s9ct23

The group in IT I work with seems to be understaffed (a recurring issue around here), maybe that?

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