I know several people who survived theirs and are still here, some of them thriving. Yes, it took hard work but it's far from impossible. So what am I missing? Why are people being advised to quit as soon as they learn they've been put on a PIP?
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Speaking from experience, once you are PIP’d, you can work and move up in the rankings, but only for so long. I was PIP’d the first year of the new system in 2020, Top 3rd, top of 2nd quint in 2019 to NSI with no explanation. Everything was going well after that. I had a boss that wanted me to stay; he made sure I passed the PIP. I continued moving up every year after that even with a move to a different group. Made it to the point the NSI was about to fall off and no longer be considered when in my last meeting with my supervisor before the rank session the exact wording from my NSI performance discussion gets added to my performance assessment by my supervisor. Once you’ve been NSI/PIP, expect these things to come back every few years for the rest of your career since you’re now an easy target to fill the bottom NI/NSI HR quota. As other people have mentioned, your pay will suffer as you try to move back up. Falling in the ranking will always occur in a single cycle; climbing up takes years. After 16 years of service, I decided the rollercoaster wasn’t for me. The HR community is small and they’re well aware of what XOM is doing and are happy to pickup their discarded employees knowing XOM “rejects” run circles around their current employees. In addition, our skill sets are typically in demand with most employers. You’ll probably, if not certainly, take a pay cut, but I know I’ll outpace my XOM pay within 2 years because of the sh---y raises I would have gotten while trying to climb back up again. If you feel the rollercoaster is worth it, stay. Otherwise, go find a new employer.
Overall I don't think people are scared of a pip. What they are afraid of is a thinly veiled attempt to reduce headcount by using the PADP process. Many companies have turned to these process to quietly layoff staff. Without a way to push back and with the perception the system is biased, it is easy to see why people loath the process. Can a pip by completed successfully? Yes as long as the bar for success isn't placed where success cannot be achieved. For example, if success is defined by the actions of other people how can that pip be considered unbiased and fair?
PIPs are used by the company to force a needed level of personnel cuts by hiding them in a larger pool of “low performers”.
The larger group for the most part just go thru the motions but are really not at risk of being terminated. The problem is those who will be let go are not necessarily very different in performance from the others, in most cases. Hence, people are right to be worried.
PIP => Paid Interview Period
HR, is that you. Just finished going down on DW I assumed?
@OP DW, why are you posting anonymously on here?
OP it isn’t fear it is the reality of what it does to your bank account! No raises and no RSUs. Even if you improve your assessment ypu will never get the missed money back.
When I read over the PIP, it was a real joke. I thought. They sat down and came up with this b s? This is elementary school b s.
I was just glad after I retired my supervisor was fired soon after. Karma B.
No retirement or benefits for her after putting in 20 years.
Here's a good reason... managers openly discussing if their NSI employees select the PIP, they will NOT pass.
It is something to be afraid of. It really depends on if your boss likes you and wants to keep you. It could be a matter of pressure on your boss to let you go....I've heard/seen various things. If you have another job to go to its not AS bad but the mental repercussions are there. If you pass you have a job but have that in the back of your mind always.
Just as someone mentioned. As you age and close to retirement, it's as if all the years you have given the company didn't matter.
So you take retirement instead of putting yourself through humility trying to possibly save your job a few more months.
Gotta make it around the super that’s living their best life. But serving their friends and so forth.
@an DW has a raise for you
PIP = Why are you still here, you worthless no good! You don't belong here.
You don't have to get pipd to go two years without a raise....
It’s probably the two years of no raises, and no promotions… and the fact that you’re two years behind everyone else in pay scale.
Also, every future supervisor can see your NSI, and statistically far more likely to wind up there again… especially given as this is a perceived performance versus absolute performance.
People should be scared of the PIP, it’s essentially a career ender at Exxon.
Getting piped while other more deserving employees get promoted is what pissses me off. Good hard working employees piped is the problem. If exxon truly piped and cut the worthless favorites,friends and family members then pip would be fair. If there was no bias or supervisor retaliation pip that would be fair but it is not. Pip can ruin people's lives while the managers are safe.
That’s nothing, get piped and then send you to train your replacement. Cheers from Midland-Permian
It’s more than just being PIP’ed in that moment or whether or not you can pass it (most can). It’s also what comes later. It’s very hard to come back from.
Apparently everything!
You apparently have not been PIP’d …. Yet.
When you get closer to retirement you will understand.