Thread regarding Cisco Systems Inc. layoffs

Some tech company mist buy cisco to save it from itself

Recent acquisition of HPE and Juniper is an example of good meets best. in cisco’s case it will be very easy. cut out the middle managament and execs and tons of BUs. you will be left with hardware that will need software fixing and turning the company around. thats the only hope for cisco. else we will have to sit in on hands on meetings listening to a brown guy tell us a s-b story to get away from the topic at hand of why we are failing miserably in the main industry that we built

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Recent acquisition of HPE and Juniper is an example of good meets best....

HPE is good and Juniper is best? did I read it correctly? Oh my, Do you mean loser meets sorry a**?

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Post ID: @106+1jz9nd51e

AI is a tool to help you in your task.

AIdoes not have understanding of the whole end to end use case or the overall flow of code in a very large complex Operating system.

AI operates based on patterns learned from data without comprehending the underlying concepts. Common-sense reasoning, intuitive understanding, and contextual awareness are areas where AI falls short.

While AI can generate content, it struggles with true creativity and original thought. Machines cannot innovate, envision abstract concepts, or produce truly novel ideas that go beyond the patterns present in their training data. Creative thinking remains a distinctly human trait.

AI depends on training data and algorithms. It requires another set of team/teams to make it work with existing code or features.

Many companies are struggling to release next version of their AI tool and running out of ideas.

Don’t believe all the hype like builder.ai scam. So many startups with all the BS promise are struggling to generate revenues.

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Post ID: @nz+1jz9nd51e

The threat to American jobs is no longer off-shoring, its AI. We’re all sc--wed

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Post ID: @ng+1jz9nd51e
Cisco needs to stop outsourcing jobs to Asia to save money and focus on local employees.

As a straight white American I keep having to point out that Cisco had that in the 1990s when they could afford obscene pay packages and the quality was still complete cr-p. The problem isn't ethnic culture, it's Cisco's work culture which has been used to train people it's brought on in every theater for decades. If Cisco ever deployed effective quality metrics most people at every site including those in the US would be out in the street.

They need to take the Apple company route and keep it local.

On the software side Apple's OSs keep having KERNEL LEVEL EXPLOITS when automatically rendering pictures, sounds or videos in web pages. While I don't mind them adding lots of quirky features I'll never use the fact that they break the features I do use every single release makes Apple a very poor role model for quality.

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Post ID: @nb+1jz9nd51e

Stock at a 25 year year...yeah, that's gonna happen

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Post ID: @na+1jz9nd51e

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Extreme NAC is better than access manager on the AP side
But yes Meraki cloud is great overall

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Post ID: @n7+1jz9nd51e

Stick to the facts ! You are losing your head and it is in another company’s a*!s !

Have you worked at Aruba or Extreme network? Did you use their products for 1 year or more ? Don’t just bash Cisco because you hate it.

Cisco needs to stop outsourcing jobs to Asia to save money and focus on local employees. They need to focus on R&D and innovate. They need to take the Apple company route and keep it local.

Any anyone tell me why extreme cloud is better than meraki.

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Post ID: @kn+1jz9nd51e

HPE and Extreme networks have lost the battle for cloud based WLAN solution long ago.

Aruba cloud and extreme networks cloud are full of bugs and not even stable !! Their cloud architecture is NOT stable and customers hate it!!

Extreme acquired aerohive cloud and HPE acquired Aruba. Aruba was good in controller based APs but cloud is utter failure. No amount of sales slide and Cisco bashing will help ! Customer run away from Extreme networks due to bugs and lack of good features ! Troubleshooting is a pain in extreme networks cloud UI.

Cisco Meraki is the de facto solution for the cloud based APs. Proven and stable !! It has captured the market long ago.

Juniper MIST has good AI troubleshooting but has just 5% of market. Cisco is widely used in routing and switching, majority of customers are not going to jump to Juniper solutions.

Cisco has introduced GNSS based features and also Meraki has implemented a number of AI/ML based troubleshooting!! Dont just believe the Gartner bashing article on Cisco ! They are biased !! Cisco should be in the leader category!

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Post ID: @jc+1jz9nd51e

Cisco irrelevent in CxO meetings. Security a big boardroom concern but Cisco managed to even lose ground in that just like it lost all others. It confuses the he-l out of everything it ever does. Rather than having on-point conversations about security and win the FW and then branch out from that, we pitch 40 different products and CU eyes glaze over and they get Palo or Fortinet in. Seen it happen so many times. Started to happen with EN, HPE/extreme does their homework and know this complexity. Complexity and confusion reign at Cisco! less products and more coherence needed.

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Post ID: @fy+1jz9nd51e

Cisco is still no1 in routing, switching and wireless. You guys are in another world. Wake up !

No one is buying Cisco. Cisco will buy newer technologies and grow. US government and corporations won’t depend on foreign company for their networking needs !!

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Post ID: @cj+1jz9nd51e

Not sure what are you guys talking about ? That might be your own opinion !

Facts below !!

Juniper MIST has just 4% of WLAN market and Aruba 14-15%.

Cisco along with Meraki had 45-47% of wlan market. Many customers want to talk to just comm no pant to troubleshoot issues.

They pick Cisco for switching, routing and wireless solutions and easy to deal with. Cisco has defeated HPE and Juniper in networking long ago. No wonder Juniper is being bought by HPE, another loser in networking area.

Most of the customers want basic things to work as expected everyday. They are fine with Cisco APs.

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Post ID: @ch+1jz9nd51e

WTF would anyone buy an outdated decrepit shell of a company making commodity HW to move packets using standards based protocols? Not even in the leader’s quadrant anymore on what constitutes 90% of its revenue, so useless are its management.

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Post ID: @c1+1jz9nd51e

OP lost all credibility with the opening sentence.

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Post ID: @bm+1jz9nd51e

no one will buy cisco for the very same reason no one bought nortel. the tech is outdated and broken beyond fixing. a merger could happen but who would be stupid enough to do that?

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Post ID: @bc+1jz9nd51e

if you had $300bln USD sitting around, would you buy Cisco? exactly.

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Post ID: @b8+1jz9nd51e

It's the next in a long list of acquisitions by HPE to stabilize their networking division until the next acquisition. Reading between the lines of the press announcement Juniper is going to be the part that survives which means HPE's existing customers are up for grabs. Both companies have very weak operating margins, and Juniper's revenues are less than 10% of Cisco's after nearly 30 years of competition so aside of having access to HPE's sales channels what is it that Juniper will do that they couldn't before to suddenly become the world leader in networking?

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