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The Clock is Ticking for LBT

WSJ: The Clock Is Ticking Loudly for Intel’s New Boss

Lip-Bu Tan isn’t yet signaling a major departure from Intel’s past strategy, but expectations for change are high
WSJ - By Dan Gallagher, April 1, 2025 5:30 am ET
https://www.wsj.com/tech/intel-new-ceo-lip-bu-tan-2de6876f
Two weeks is admittedly not a lot of time in a new job. But time isn’t really on Lip-Bu Tan’s side.
Tan became Intel’s INTC -0.86%decrease; red down pointing triangle new chief executive on March 18 and has already started laying out some of his vision for the storied-but-troubled chip giant. In a letter to shareholders filed with the company’s annual report Thursday, Tan spoke of the need to “up our game” to make Intel’s products more competitive in the crucial market for artificial-intelligence systems. He also said he was “equally focused” on building up the foundry business—where Intel manufactures chips designed by other companies.
In other words, the same things Intel’s last CEO was trying to accomplish. Tan reiterated those points in a speech on Monday kicking off the company’s Intel Vision conference. Beyond a few aspirations including a better AI strategy and custom-built chips for niche computing work, there was little to distinguish the Tan playbook from his predecessor’s. “Stay tuned” for Intel’s plans on humanoid robots, he told the audience.
His short tenure on the job so far means Tan could well have more significant changes in mind. But one option Intel doesn’t seem to have is more of the same.
Tan’s predecessor—Pat Gelsinger—was effectively booted following an ambitious, multiyear effort to both improve the company’s chip designs and catch its manufacturing processes up to those proffered by Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing, or TSMC.
Intel’s stock plunged 60% in 2024 and the company ousted its CEO. That has left new CEO Lip-Bu Tan facing significant challenges, including how to fix the chip giant’s business. WSJ explains. Photo Illustration: Alexandra Larkin
That effort hasn’t worked—or at least not worked yet. Intel’s annual revenue has shrunk by 33% over the last four years, and the once-flush chip giant has been burning cash since 2022. The foundry business still mostly produces Intel-designed chips; it lost $13.4 billion last year.
One change that Tan has hinted at is more whacks at Intel’s cost structure. The company reduced its workforce by 13% last year but still employs far more people than any other company in the PHLX Semiconductor Index, according to data from S&P Global Market Intelligence.
That has resulted in some relatively subpar efficiency. Intel’s annual revenue per employee of about $488,000 last year lags behind other chip manufacturers such as Micron and GlobalFoundries. It is also far below the $906,000 per employee that TSMC generated in 2023—the most recent year for which the company’s employee count is available.
Another Tan move involves listening more closely to customers. That sounds like corporate speak, but it is meaningful at Intel. Decades of technical success and a near-monopoly on personal-computer chips nurtured a culture of arrogance. An Intel recruiter who interviewed Gelsinger for his first stint at Intel out of a technical school called him “somewhat arrogant,” and noted, “He’ll fit right in.”
Tan has signaled that he has some more ambitious aims, too. In his shareholder letter, he said Intel would compete with Nvidia to design giant cabinets of computing gear tailored for AI. That seems both costly and risky given that Intel will have a late start: Nvidia started designing such equipment last year, and it is in production now.
What so far has been absent from Tan’s strategy is a deeper shift in Intel’s business. Andy Grove, the storied Intel chief who mentored Gelsinger, would have called the current AI wave a “strategic inflection point” that required decisive action—much like when Intel itself abandoned making memory chips in the 1980s. Back then, Japanese producers were making memory more cheaply, rendering it unprofitable for Intel. So Intel took up the then-nascent market for personal-computer processors.
Today, some analysts suggest Intel should split off its manufacturing operations from its chip-design and marketing functions, following a long-established industry trend. It could gather outside investors in the manufacturing operation to bring in more capital, something the company is already in talks to do.
Investors have so far welcomed Tan, sending the company’s stock up 10% since his appointment in March. But if he doesn’t soon articulate a new way forward that is both promising and sufficiently distinct from Gelsinger’s, the market’s patience may wear thin.
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@10v+1jqvzh2kz I think this is a good time to cost average, using payroll deductions into the stock fund.

Anyone who says they know where the real bottom is on anything right now, does not.

China is the real wildcard, seemingly an intractable trade issue that may result in the shut down of most trade with western countries. Not just the US that has had enough of the IP theft, tariffs, subsidies and other trade barriers that the CCP does routinely.

The economy was not awesome before all this, propped up by a federal budget deficit which was running at $1 Trillion every 100 days, with most of that squandered.

So that needed to stop and is being at least reduced to a less insane level, and hopefully that prevents a sovereign debt collapse. Like Greece but you know, in America.

Semis are highly cyclical and Intel is already in a very weak position, so if the market & sector drags INTC below $18 then LBT and the Board will tear this mutha up. Could even break up and sell off the company, but will sell or shut down product groups as needed to support the profit margin.

Older fabs were at risk anyway, and if this is the start of a global recession then they likely get idled, with workers placed on leave. Then see if they are sold, because the company has no long term use for non-EUV fabs. IFS only plans to use EUV fabs for external customers and the products being run on those older nodes are not competitive, and so are likely to be ramped down sooner rather than later.

It's a harsh reality, and seems to be getting tougher by the week, but Intel could come out of this with IFS spun off and less headcount than AMD or NVDA. There is no justification for the headcount to be higher.

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Post ID: @112+1jqvzh2kz

Intel is toast. Because:

  1. Same culture of favoritism/nepotism ($ndians)
  2. Same Mgt making decisions.
  3. Same "engineers" doing CYA work.
  4. Same artificial complexity to keep one's job.
  5. Same silo mentality to not share information one's own countrymen (i.e. $ndians).
  6. Same PEs, Senior PEs, Fellows making $450K+ who let this Co to almost bankruptcy.
  7. $Indian nepotism and favoritism.
  8. Bloated org like Atom CPU, PTL CPU, XEON CPU, TD, TMG, CMO, PKG, NEX, IDC, HAIFA, Kyriat Gyat, Petach Tikva, Folsom, Rolner Acres teams.

Nothing has changed and nothing much will because VPs, GMs, Directors will not do that

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Post ID: @111+1jqvzh2kz

Intel fab is key to Intel's success. One sure way to ki-l the US competitiveness is to ki-l the advanced chip manufacturing in the US. Intel is on the cusp of volume producing the most advanced node in the world, 18A, in its Arizona fabs this year. Intel is around two years ahead of TSMC in the High NA EUV for 14A and beyond. Fabs don't get transformed overnight. Pat Gelsinger was on the right path. Lip-Bu Tan, I hope, will make Intel great again. You need to see through the propaganda by those who want to destroy the US chip manufacturing when it is almost about to become the most advanced once again.

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Post ID: @10v+1jqvzh2kz

Did or would have swapping captains after the Titanic hit the iceberg and was already dead in the water changed the outcome any.

LBT can rearrange the deck chairs mate mobilize a pail bailing chain gain but the outcome alllready has been determined.

This is past the tipping point

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Post ID: @dj+1jqvzh2kz

We have a new captain, but so what? There's really no point in turning a sinking ship around. The good ship Intel has huge gashes running from bow to stern on both sides of the ship, below the waterline, and all the bulkhead doors are stuck wide open, and the pumps don't work, and the best crewmembers have already left on the lifeboats. Maybe the band will play a few good tunes before she breaks in half and slips below the surface. Forever.

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Post ID: @d7+1jqvzh2kz

Intel has become the free money pit for veterans in the semiconductor industry. ICs are hired only to be sla-ghtered!!!

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Post ID: @b3+1jqvzh2kz

He’s gonna sc--w the pooch. Not be held accountable and walk away with millions. The current board of money pigs has set the tone. Nobody give a fu-k about Intel anymore.

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Post ID: @ap+1jqvzh2kz

Clearly the fabs need to restructure headcount to be aligned with other foundries.

IDM did not care about cost but now it is a much higher priority. Obviously the yield ramp has to be on track, but that can be done with lower headcount when it is put to best use and at the lowest cost.

The company no longer has the market-dominating profit margin on the product side to pay for bespoke fab operations. This means converting most direct labor to contract worker, and moving more work out of the fab to regional operations centers. Yield department in particular is normally not assigned to a specific fab in a foundry environment, but there are other groups which also need to be centralized.

Until this is fixed the losses will continue, at least at any time the fabs are not running at full capacity. The days of max-output-at-any-cost are done, and Naga has indicated that is the case.

Any non-EUV fab should be sold, as there is no expected external customer for those fabs, and they are generally not configured to be converted to EUV (at a reasonable cost).

Product groups are going through a reckoning, but the real serious work to be done is in the fabs.

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Post ID: @aa+1jqvzh2kz

To turn a profit in the foundry business, Intel must drastically reduce its cycle times − by at least one, possibly two orders of magnitude. High-volume efficiency doesn’t translate to low unit costs on smaller production runs unless setup and changeover times are nearly nonexistent. That kind of agility hasn’t been part of Intel’s DNA for a long time, and entrenched internal resistance will fight hard against such a transformation. This internal battle needs to happen immediately − and the advocates for fast cycle times must win decisively − because without that shift, Intel’s future is in serious jeopardy.

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Post ID: @a6+1jqvzh2kz

Intel struggled to evolve with shifting market dynamics... The "Wintel" monopoly once generated profits by the truckload but we failed to capitalize on both the mobile revolution and the rise of AI. It's as simple as that... Grove warned that companies must seize upon critical inflection points to stay competitive, and we did exacetely that... Somewhere along the line, Intel lost that edge. We're contracting rapidly, burning through billions annually, falling far behind TSMC and others and spinnin in a downward spiral with no exit path in sight.

I think it's over.

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