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Will RTO happen soon? Any insights?

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Will private jets be provided to employees that work out of state? Thanks

Welcome to the past half century, and not just at the C-level of particularly large companies. Those companies also provided limos and helicopters to get to and from the airport.

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Will private jets be provided to employees that work out of state? Thanks

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But hey who would want to move since its just a paycheck and not a stable career.

The days of lifetime employment ended 40 years ago. A career is what you make of a sequence of jobs. Stability? HAHAHAHA.

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Instead of the slow disclosures of what Cisco has planned they should just announce when all the next layoffs will be for the next couple years.

No company can correctly predict economic conditions, their performance or the performance of their people over that timescale.

Cisco's biggest problems lie with the latter two with incompetent and incapable management that let technical debt get out of control throughout Cisco's history and individual contributors who have grown to think the busywork most do is somehow either good or even useful. Getting laid off while you're still useful means having a chance to get a better job with better work for better pay. As for the rest of you, we've been warning you here for years.

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Thats why it was wise to pay off mortgage and all debt while living in a nice country rural area and working remote since 2015 in high paying tech roles. Even if all WFH ends all that has to be paid is electric and water and food on retirement.

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But hey who would want to move since its just a paycheck and not a stable career.

right, but at least if you are near a major metro, you can apply to other local companies

if you live in the backwoods, your choices are the last scraps of WFH (forcing you to grovel to companies like Cisco), or whatever the local economy offers (prepare for disappointment)

Cisco hopes everyone keeps clinging to WFH like its some "benefit" so they can keep paying you backwoods wages

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Im 600 miles from any cisco office and wouldnt move near one if they doubled my salary.
But hey who would want to move since its just a paycheck and not a stable career.
They may LR you as soon as you get moved in a new house and they wouldnt care a bit.

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Post ID: @dm+1jq7cse9c

Cisco will keep embracing remote/WFH as long as it helps reinforce the lowball comp posture

Cisco is a cost manager, not a growth play

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Post ID: @da+1jq7cse9c

Instead of the slow disclosures of what Cisco has planned they should just announce when all the next layoffs will be for the next couple years. Also disclose what jobs are being terminated due to AI and if purely remote workers will be let go and what roles are planned to be replaced by cheaper indian or mexican labor. Give all these people a chance to make a career change to a company that values their employees. It will be obvious in the end anyway.

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Cisco never has a master strategy, this company is completely reactive...so RTO, like any decision at Cisco, will be based on external factors

look at our ELT...do they look like people planning strategy on par with the best business leadership?

the stock is up for now so I expect no company-wide changes in the near term

even if RTO gained currency, in some teams you have literally everyone being remote in far-flung nowhere locales...doing RTO means replacing the team. otherwise, what are you going to do, tell one person in twenty they have to drive to an office?

in any case I don't think people here should necessarily be against RTO...if you actually live near a Cisco office, this is a great way to eliminate your competition that is logging in from some cheap exurb

but if you are logging in from some cheap exurb, hold on to that remote Cisco job as long as you can, your next employer will probably want you in-office at least partially

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Post ID: @ch+1jq7cse9c

With them closing the RTP campus at any given moment, that’s really gonna make RTO a lot more difficult.

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Post ID: @ax+1jq7cse9c

Starting in April for CX 2 days a week. But they're leaving it up to the teams to figure out the logistics.

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