Thread regarding 3M layoffs

Who is actually going into the office?

After the announcement back in October I've been to the office twice. Many people I know have only been back in a handful of times.

There aren't enough desks and there isn't any benefit to going in, so it seems like unless you're unlucky enough to have a boss who thinks forcing all their employees to be in the office makes them look good, pretty much everyone is happy to ignore it.

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I only know one person who goes to the office. Everyone else works from home and usually works through lunches. If we had to return, definitely will lose 30min-1 hour of productivity minimum

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Post ID: @1g0+1jn7s2czv

I've worked jobs in manufacturing as well as packaging and site logistics. Those jobs would typically require me (engineer) to be in the office, at least most of the time, working closely with the technicians.

I've also worked in jobs where I came into the office even though 90 percent of my team was in another location, even overseas. I did some collaboration with people outside my team so maybe some office time made sense, but could be scheduled so that I would be the office certain days and times.

But the 4 full days in the office mindset that BB is driving for roles more like my 2nd paragraph simply don't add value. BB has already made his logo Minnesota Nasty, while he spends 75 percent of his time on the golf course or a yacht running the company from his IPad or phone. He wants several 1000 to pack up and leave so he can avoid paying severance and pack a few more million into his backpack.

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Post ID: @st+1jn7s2czv

Looking at RTO as being "fair" or not completely misses the point.

Some people can't do their jobs from home; it's reasonable to expect them to come into work.

But many people can and do perform all of their job duties from home. For many people, there's no functional benefit to being in the office, because all of the people they interact with are in different locations. For those people, it is unreasonable to expect them to physical be in the office.

Declaring that it has to be fair, so you artificially force one employee to endure a pointless annoyance, just because others have to deal with it is not fairness, it's stupidity. There's no benefit to making them come into the office, so what's the rationale?

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Post ID: @sk+1jn7s2czv

From a neutral point of view for those who work in the HQ.

Folks who work at the bench, have been back in the lab since June 2020 and getting close to their 5th RTO anniversary. Sure they use WYW and somewhat flex timing, but they are where are supposed to be.

A few days a week in the office for others, is not unfair. Look at what is happening around in other corporations, full RTO, check badging etc.

At least 3M is not imposing draconian measures like some other enterprises are!

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Post ID: @nj+1jn7s2czv

You are not understanding. If you are close to the center, going into the office is a perfect way to do nothing. The days I show up i of course attend a few meetings, but since i live in a rural area these are the days i can easily run errands in woodbury, make phone calls for personal business, and do my bills as well as hit the gym. If you are on campus and dont miss an important meeting nobody will question your efforts for that day. Hybrid is an inconvenience on some days, but is literally less overall work than remote because since ive been seen i dont have to worry about missing teams messages and having productivity. I am also super fit and dress nicely, so i peacock around the center and my presence is literally what identifies me as a high performer with executive leadership. Its all a show my friends!!

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Post ID: @dd+1jn7s2czv

The company does not pay my mortgage; I pay my mortgage.

We have an arms-length transaction where they give me money in exchange for services.

If that's how it is, Bill owes me a he-l of a lot more for paying his expensive-a-s mortgage by doing my job so that Wall Street doesn't put him out on his a-s.

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Post ID: @ah+1jn7s2czv

I go in because I live close to HQ and all my job essential equipment is stored there. It isn’t shameful to want a bit of human interaction. I also tend to get a lot of work done in a short amount of time. I have a permanent desk tucked away where no one ever goes. Sometimes there are donuts. If you’re not worried about looking like a stooge and you just do what works best for you and your job, maybe don’t worry about everyone else and just do you. So disappointing seeing posts here that are just a circlej--kof people hating on the company that pays your mortgage.

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Post ID: @a7+1jn7s2czv

It all depends. Like real estate. Location. Location. Location.

Closer to 3M Center more likely the boss is making rounds seeing who is not butt in seat.

Austin? Even the SVP hasn't even unpacked her boxes. You can watch TPIR from your home, take an afternoon nap, and no one will notice. Be sure to send a few emails at 7 am and 9 pm. And scattered in between.

Someplace like Garbage Grove? Depends on your boss. Some are drunk at midnight and crawl into work at 9 am. Just be there before they arrive. And pretend you have meetings at the Center in the afternoon.

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