Thread regarding Phillips 66 layoffs

Totally agree on IT organization inefficiencies. Managers over managers, ten IT people in each meeting, every body only reporting, taking notes and making slides. Thats all IT directors and managers do. Zero technical capability.

All work is already contracted out to at least 3x the cost before AE66. All 'new initiatives' are basically to charge more to the business for the work already being done.

IT spending was already higher than our competitors, then NP found the way to get large refining projects of 100s of millions of dollars. Fully run by contractors while feeding an army of IT teams and doing nothing. Imagine the number of companies P66 could buy with that money rather than supporting the IT buddy systems.

When the business leadership is technological d-mb, smart people like NP milk them easy.

Totally agree on IT organization inefficiencies. Managers over managers, ten IT people in each meeting, every body only reporting, taking notes and making slides. Thats all IT directors and managers do. Zero technical capability.

All work is already contracted out to at least 3x the cost before AE66. All 'new initiatives' are basically to charge more to the business for the work already being done.

IT spending was already higher than our competitors, then NP found the way to get large refining projects of 100s of millions of dollars. Fully run by contractors while feeding a army of IT teams doing nothing. Imagine the number of companies P66 could buy with that money rather than supporting the IT buddy systems.

When the business leadership is technological d-mb, smart people like NP milk them easy.

ELT core business is to draw in as many vcip and rsu’s before getting scorched. 🥵. Then bail out with the golden chute. Then create a job for yourself with your fav McKinsey before exiting. Such malarkey has never been so strong!

The post about useless meetings described the odious Taskmaster! Wonder what it took for the beauty queen to finally give him the boot! Interesting that she hasn’t found his DEI replacement yet.

Duplicate work & Groups in many jobs.
P66 IT created the ICS org, which we have ICS staff doing a portion of Refining PCN network items that we did, they created more useless work and redundancy and the entire org could go away as bd nobody would miss them.
Merge a handful into refining PCN.
The majority of solutions implemented don’t even work , and fooled management that it’s the greatest, because ELT is clueless. I spend more time cleaning up ICS sc--wup's
I really thought McKinsey would find these task.

Don’t forget the daily updates about the meetings about meetings.

The poster that wrote about all the useless meetings is describing L and D perfectly.

Many middle level managers don’t know how their team’s daily work are done because these managers have not done any of the work before being promoted to their position. These managers’ main job are setting up meetings, going to the meetings, setting up more meetings regarding meetings to pretend they are important and busy. People who are doing daily work have to waste time to be in those meetings and find extra time to complete their overfilled plates. Man, those managers are obsessed to have meetings.

Bartlesville is a relic of the past; its presence should be significantly minimized, if not eliminated altogether. Ideally, since the majority of IT leadership is based in Houston, most of the IT operations should be located there as well.

P66 be like a bank. Everybody a vp now if you live in h town and make more than 200k. Matches the fancy shoes and too short inseams.

Bartlesville office needs to be closed.

This company needs a serious dose of alignment- make sure the view of where we are going is clear and that all the orgs are working toward the same goal.

Too many departments working in a vacuum and working on their own initiatives, even if they impact other groups.

No unified goal. Creating a massive cluster.

Couple of things….(1) P66 will never let CP Chem go, it’s the private 50/50 cash cow that no one looks at. Even if a regulator got a wild hair and decided to dive into a straight 50/50 split with Chevron, they would be looking at a legal nightmare of finger pointing. Although anyone that has seen our legal department knows Chevron would mop the floor with us. Also interesting that Greg and Go Go were legacy CPChem, maybe that is where the facade starts? 2) Don’t get your pantie$ in a ruffle, those “Director” titles are actually dry promotions with big titles, no authority and no pay. Legal took analysts and turned them into Directors, which all HR documentation says is impossible (you can’t jump 3 grades right!?). It’s the old McKinsey trick to bring the pay grades down. Make no mistake the only people under the veil of corruption are leaders group and above and they are widening the gap to the general population because the dirty underbelly is getting harder and harder to stomach. They have to keep the group of people that know what’s really going on to a minimum. I predict P66 will go down as a bigger fraud than Enron. Run for it Marty!

Someone explain to me why there’s an SVP over a 30 people org? One of his GMs has one direct report— a manager with no direct reports. So what is this person managing? There’s another GM with like 5 people. Oh and btw this team is leading the cost savings exercise for the entire company. Make it make sense. You want to continuously improve, start cutting costs there.

the problem in IT is 100% outsourcing.

I agree! Corporate is just thinking up things to do to make them relatable and important. You’re spot on about the org structure and dotted lines. The field people I know reporting to corporate but working in the field are running circles around their coworkers in corporate as far as responsibilities and work demands. I don’t even understand what happens in Bartlesville either but it does seem like a lot of duplication. You’re either doing the work or creating the work - we need less people creating more work!

Dropping CPChem would be a mistake. That's a good asset in a market that's just going to grow.

I saw that Chevron would like to buy CP Chem, but I haven’t seen anywhere that they have actually bought it.

Chevron is buying Phillips 66’s chemical.

Seems like erybody getting one of them Veep positions. Am I the only one seeing this?

Unfortunately it’s too late. Elliott waited for over a year to see results and was punished for their patience. They won’t do that again. We can hope for the best.

Didn’t say outsource overseas but to a true IT company that provides onsite services in Houston or remote locations.
And agree that AE66 made IT staff higher grades than engineers with real business needs.
We can lower our overall cost outsourcing non business roles. If we just did that instead of wasting money on McKinsey.
If we don’t do something drastic soon, Elliott will and we will lose a ton of jobs.
May be too late. Wish you well.

Agree to a degree. I’m adamantly against outsourcing American jobs, that’s a chickensh*t move to wish that on your own people. Have some pride brother.

Although agree on the amount of HQ employees, L&D, HR etc. I’m not saying fire them, but definitely don’t backfill.

Agree that the IT organization became over-graded during AE66. They went on a promotion spree - just count the number of Director and Manager roles in IT now versus 2018.