Thread regarding Optum layoffs

I'm done here

So long folks! No, I didn't get RIF'd, and I'm staying with Optum until I do. I came to the realization misery loves company and all y'all are miserable. Things could be better, raises and bonuses could be higher, job insecurity causes real anxiety. But at the end of the day, the negativity here is somewhat of a self-fulfilling prophecy.

If you think you're gonna get RIF'd, chances are your performance will decrease. If you got a 2 on the performance review, chances are you've spent way too much time looking for all the gossip. It seems to me that there is little value to this webpage because there's selection bias in the community. The people here aren't looped into the decision making processes and can only provide fear, rumors, and speculation above their pay grade.

Things are bad, no doubt about it. But the people here really don't know what's going on, and so all they do is augment the fears we all have. I've been through 4 RIFs this past year in my department. I expect my time will come. This post isn't intended to be a culture corner moment or a Rah Rah Optum pep rally or anything like that, but more of a reminder that all of these things are beyond our control. The 2 rated performers are looking to blame someone else for their poor performance, but the reality is that Optum would be open to all sorts of lawsuits if it intentionally rated people lower than the goals employees made at the beginning of the year. Maybe in prior years we could all skate by doing level 2 work getting level 4 ratings, and this year they actually held us accountable for the level of performance we provide, but that's still our problem, not Optum's.

A piece of advice: Get out of here with me. Assume you will be RIF'd in the next 6 months and create a strategy to make yourself invaluable so that they can't fire you, or start polishing the resume. One more minute spent here is one less minute you have to prep for the future. Good luck y'all!

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Post ID: @OP+1jmct5aaw

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I was with UHC & Optum for over 20 years and was usually a meets or exceeds when mangers did their job. I can not tell you how many mangers would not set goals but would use company default ones. So you never really knew the expectations and just had to hope for the best. We were also responsible for writing our own at the end of the year. I was RIF’d after moving to a new role less than 6 months ago. The new manager was awful and made me miserable from day one so it was probably a blessing but job hunting is very difficult currently.

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Post ID: @z1+1jmct5aaw

Quit. You work for a terrible company. Of course, you won't, since you've sold your soul for a paycheck.

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Post ID: @w3+1jmct5aaw

“OPTUM” SU-KS! Bad Expierence with Orthology the receptionist we’re “Terrible”!!!

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Post ID: @s2+1jmct5aaw

You're wrong on one part. Only CEOs are invaluable. Everyone else is replaceable. You have worked here long enough to know that lol

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Post ID: @qt+1jmct5aaw

As a former director and executive at Optum, it's 100% true that employees must fall into a matrix of ratings with certain percentages on each team meeting, exceeding and below. Even if you have a team if high performers, you still must rank some below.

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Post ID: @qb+1jmct5aaw

GL 30 - who in the world would be rated a 2?

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Post ID: @g2+1jmct5aaw

Typically a manager will be told how many of each rating they can give to their team. It is all done on a curve. I was told once I was a high 4 because there was someone on the team who was given a 5 and the team could only have one 5. I definitely believe their were a lot of folks who were given 2s so if the person was let go it was said for performance issues. The company does not have to do this but it aligns with the layoffs in the Federal Government so the general public will not question it. "Right to Work" allows for the company to let anyone go at any time but corporations do not like to lay off folks without a reason because it can affect stock prices when there are large numbers of folks getting let go..

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Post ID: @ft+1jmct5aaw

Sorry, stack ranking based on calibration feedback received at year end is legal. Optum chooses to gaslight employees who receive lowered rankings due to year end feedback instead of ensuring high quality feedback throughout the year. Leadership is too worried about the targets on their own backs to actually create the conditions for success. It takes two to tango.

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Post ID: @ej+1jmct5aaw
Optum would be open to all sorts of lawsuits if it intentionally rated people lower than the goals employees made at the beginning of the year

This absolutely happens all the time at Optum.

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Post ID: @ec+1jmct5aaw

Clearly this "webpage" post was written by Optum PR. Read it again- people don't talk like that...and to bring up the 2s!

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Post ID: @c8+1jmct5aaw

They make stuff up about you, then mark you a 2 based on supposedly talk from others on the team. It’s very corrupt in some areas while they’re talking up the friends and relatives they hired. Total cr-p. I’ve never worked at such a terrible company and I have several top 100 companies I’ve worked at. Believe the rumors and don’t come to this company. Total backstabbers saving only their own interests.

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Post ID: @be+1jmct5aaw

Give them the work they are paying to do. If your hourly quota is 10, do 10 and not one more. Even if you can do 20, don't do it. They aren't paying any of us to "exceed" their expectations. I've been practicing this for the past 2 years and my mental health, when it comes to work, has greatly improved. Come in, do what IS EXPECTED and nothing more, and go home. It's a corporate job with criminals and frauds running the show, just like all the other corporate companies.

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Post ID: @aq+1jmct5aaw

Okay, see you tomorrow.

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Post ID: @ap+1jmct5aaw

https://www.thelayoff.com/post/@OP+1jmct5aaw

i WAS with you until you started siding with the enemy and trying to justify them downgrading performance reviews. Hello, I don't work for Optum or UHG but instead work at Elevance Health and they ABSOLUTELY are down grading reviews. My boss directly told me she gave me exceeds expectations but could only grade 2 people on our team with exceeds expectations so she instead gave me meets expectations but that Im an Asset to the team.
They have a budget to work with when it comes to bonuses and promotions so they absolutely do this kind of stuff. You're not safe anywhere.

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Post ID: @af+1jmct5aaw

Your entire company is in shambles, as well as your egos, and WE’RE the low performers. Lol!! Bless ❤️

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Post ID: @a6+1jmct5aaw

They give out 1% raises even if you exceed. This place stinks

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Post ID: @a4+1jmct5aaw

I agree about the lawsuits (fired vs laid off), but you can layoff anyone, you don't need to give them 2 ratings which would make them unhireable within UHG forever. I spent a year at a former company trying to work my way up the corporate ladder and didn't get any traction, until a hiring manager asked me why I got a 2 on my last performance review. Come to find out it was the default setting in my company's system and if your manager failed to do annual reviews, you had a 2 in the system. At the time I was the top sales performer in the state and 3 of 5 years I was with the company I had 100% on every customer service survey. I was very good at the job. I hit sales incentives that were deemed unattainable, but the 2 made me unhireable. Once I discovered the issue, I had it fixed and had no problem advancing.

I personally think we all know what a 2 rated performer looks like, and we would expect them to be on a website like this, complaining about all the problems without a hint of introspection. So when we hear about everyone getting 2s on their annual review, there's a high probability that we've found ourselves in the local 2-rated hangout spot, and that it is not a company-wide policy to lower ratings to get rid of people.

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Post ID: @a2+1jmct5aaw

Good points, though I am not sure about your legal analysis of performance ratings. Lawsuits could be involved for being l fired (vs laid off) without cause but i'd guess rating on a curve or other manipulations would be within their rights, and they do seem to push some legal boundaries when it suits them.

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