Thread regarding Microsoft Corp. layoffs

MS ghost from the past, remembering how it all started with the layoffs.

I’m an long time Microsoftie advocate and was an FTE for over 10 years before I left MS long ago.
During that time, when I was first hired on in 2000, there was a feeling of pride, a safety net, a bragging right of being a MS employee of “Microsoft has never had a layoff and never will”. This in itself was a major drawing card for employment and of course all the benefits therein.

Fast forward a handful of years, enter stage left Steve Ballmer. Everything he laughed at, turned out to be a huge success. Let’s go through them all.

  1. ) He laughed at google for investing in a search engine, until google stock went through the roof. Immediately there was a huge push to develop Bing.
  1. ) He laughed at the Ipod. His words (paraphrasing) were “I thought Apple was going to be a serious competitor and here they are putting their money into music. We already have portal music.” Boy was he wrong. Ipod sales went through the roof. Balmer pushed to throw out Zune to the masses to play catch up.
  1. ) He laughed at the Ipad. “We were the first ones to come up with the tablet. There’s no money in it”. Ipad sales went through the roof. He then pushed for Surface to counter that.
  1. ) He laughed at the Iphone but after a healthy track record of having no vision, clearly, his laughter was not so robust anymore. It was more of a nervous laughter of concern.

Stock became flat for a long time. Then one day, Balmer had the great idea to lay some employees go. It wasn’t that MS needed to but it was what some investors thought should be done to prove that MS was serious about change. So they let some folks go and thus the trend began. Thank you Steve for all that you’ve done.

It was at this time, I decided to leave as they also started trimming down benefits. Insurance was no longer 100% coverage but instead dropped down to 80%. Ok, now, the pay and benefits are no longer competitive with other companies. So, I started looking elsewhere. I found a job making more money but only required a 40 hour per week instead of the average 60-80 per week as MS did. I left on good terms and the year I left, was ranked a “1” but even still the hours put in to get that “1” ranking vs the dwindling benefits was not worth it.

Now it saddens me to read that MS is letting people go like they have in such a fashion. I hope the part about no severance for those let go is NOT true and\or a media misprint.
I know that the AI race has everyone on edge and that the stakes are high and its crunch time to throw some serious capital at AI and I hope that THIS is what is NOT driving the layoffs.

The performance rankings vs layoffs, as I remember, was the bottom 10% has to be put on a performance plan. Ok, so if you are on a team of 10, no matter how stellar everyone is doing compared to the rest of the world in the tech, still there has to be 1 person who is chosen as the bottom. So a low performer at MS is still better than most people in that same tech outside of MS but still has to be looked down upon by the MS gods. Makes a lot of sense…again sarcasm.

I miss the old Microsoft where it was fun, and you learned, and couldn’t wait to go into work. It’s sad to me what the work environment has turned into from what I’ve both read and am told by others still there that I’ve kept up with. I long for the days of yore but alas, I fear they are gone never to return.

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By all means guys, just keep on developing AI. Its working out well so far. 1K here, 9K there. Just keep plugging away at it.

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Post ID: @p2x+1jkm05hwr

I’m very sorry to see good, honest, loyal people be treated this way by MS.

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Post ID: @dyb+1jkm05hwr

This is not the Microsoft of the past anymore.

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Post ID: @723+1jkm05hwr

This is sad:

https://www.businessinsider.com/microsoft-performance-management-low-performers-country-club-2025-2

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Post ID: @56k+1jkm05hwr

I tried to refer a well tech vetted Azure admin to the biz, his response was “nah, I’m good. There was a time I would have jumped at the chance but now, nah, I’m good. Microsoft can keep it.” When I pressed for specifics as to why? He said, “I know too many people who work there and I don’t like the way they treat their people. Thanks though but I’m good.”

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Post ID: @185+1jkm05hwr

This is true.

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Post ID: @z9+1jkm05hwr

All the things that encouraged out of the box thinking, creativity and innovation have been crushed under the heel of managements boots. Its been replaced with implied threats of:
“think out of the box or you’re fired”, “be creative and innovate or you’re fired”,”put in those long hours to beat your peers or you’re fired”.

You know because constantly having your employment threatened is a real motivator……motivator to leave that is but if that’s what MS wants, that’s what they get.

As one buddy of mine put it”
“I put in so many hours this past year, all I can remember is work. I can’t remember that I did anything else and it was all for nothing. It was all just to keep my job. If all I can remember is work, then what’s the point. “

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Post ID: @sw+1jkm05hwr

Very concerned about the mediocrity I see at msft, esp across non product dev functions and roles. I see directors and higher that would not even make the senior prod mgr level anywhere else in the top tech world. And yes, I have seen low performers ready to be booted off msft somehow land jobs in other groups and rising to very senior levels, just because they fit a certain category of employees, and certainly not because of merit. I fear this type of stagnant and complacent culture will backfire spectacularly on msft in the AI era. Hope I'm wrong.

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Post ID: @qn+1jkm05hwr
I long for the days of yore but alas, I fear they are gone never to return.

It's OK. It's going to be OK.

The low performers from other companies will need a new place to land and a flailing and failing company is just the place for them. They can join the ongoing en5hittification race to the bottom.

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Post ID: @nm+1jkm05hwr

OpenAI is about to be 30 billion dollars in debt. Microsoft is just offloading the debt to a third party while having over 100 billion of its own debt.

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Post ID: @h9+1jkm05hwr

The MS layoffs are an attempt by Satya to build up the AI financial war chest. Its as simple as that. While building up the $ war chest is a good idea, is this method the right thing to do? Its just one of the tactics on this endeavor to be followed by pice hikes in MS offerings but is letting these people go going to make that much of a difference?

While a company should give you a severance, they really don’t have to. Its true that in some states its the law but there is a loop hole. You can say its a performance based firing instead of a layoff for which negates the severance payout.

So here we are, the MS tech titan, scrambling to build up cash reserves to throw at AI. Frightened that missing out on this will either make them or break them. Will it make them or break them? Dunno, time will tell but is this the right thing to do? To let these employees go under such circumstances? Sometimes the metric used to let people go is a minuscule difference. Careful, you may be next.

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Post ID: @gx+1jkm05hwr

Microsoft used to be such a coveted employment, not so much anymore.

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Post ID: @cm+1jkm05hwr

As you play the MS Hunger games of employment, may the odds forever be in your favor.

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