Unless I'm missing something, this RTO thing is just going back to pre-covid policy.
You can work hybrid if your aren't useless and your manager allows.
They appear to have no plans to keep tracking badge-ins to enforce attendance.
If hybrid is disappearing, so does the promotion restriction for being remote?
Not all that bad. Yet.
My team were one day a week pre-covid, no one appeared to care or have any problem with that. The work got done and everyone was happy, win win all round.
It's not precovid. There were teams that were fully remote precovid that are now being told back to the office. This is forced attrition.
It's all just a threat. Keep doing what you're doing. Remember, they cannot lay off everyone and have the business succeed. Think people....think.
Prior to Covid I worked two or three days a week at home. Since none of my colleagues worked in my building, my customers are around the country and my boss was somewhere in the Rockies. It made no sense to come in everyday.
So, no, it’s not like pre-covid.
In sales, Pre-covid, I was in the office one day a week. Just Wednesdays for a team meeting and training.
Before that role, for almost a decade, I had two days a week wfh, each Tuesday and Thursday.
So this isn't going back to what we did before.
From what I have heard, the software that is used to track time in office of EVERYONE has an extremely high overhead and is being eliminated so, it is really up to Management discretion.
During covid my office was permanently closed. Now my commute will be double and will cost more in taxes due to having to cross state lines. My entire team is in another country. This is a soft layoff.
It’s BAU to pre covid but getting promoted when your remote is extremely difficult but not impossible. It get’s near impossible when you’re I-8.
I suggest patience as the constraints on regional hiring on specialized roles will eventually be seen and adjusted.
For my team, yes this is a return to pre-covid policy. A return to working in an office with more background noise and distractions. At a time when we are expected to do more work than ever before. My team is spread across multiple states and time zones, so all of our collaboration is still going to be done over zoom/teams and email. Forcing us into the office doesn't help the company and is an effective paycut since we all now have to pay commuting expenses. Bottom line is we're more efficient and effective working from home and those ar the top know it. RTO is being used as a tool to reduce headcount either through people leaving voluntarily or getting canned for reduced performance in the office.
"coming into the office was viewed as modernization"
hahahahhhaaaaaha! Modernization is now defined as a return to the 1980s? What a load of horsesh-t.
no, my team was part of a program at Dell over 10 years ago to go fully remote and only come into campus for QBRs. now my team is spread across the globe. I guess it will be nice to see new fashion with RTO ; )
It was per manager before pre covid. My manager was a micromanger control freak so I had to be in 5 days a week even on Fridays when most worked from home.
Not only is this not even close to pre-Covid, Dell had a stated goal of trying to reach a 50% remote workforce prior to the pandemic. There were no overarching requirements to be in an office. Teams worked in the office based on their obligations and needs. Some weeks I'd be in just a couple days, some weeks it would be every day depending on what was going on. Some weeks I had to go on the road and head to a different office. It was nice being treated like an adult. 2020 in to 2021 was obviously crazy, but I thought Dell handled the height of the pandemic well. But it's been a steady march toward terrible since 2022.
This is not a return to the way it used to be. I have never been in the office 5 days a week; but now I'm suddenly expected to spend thousands of dollars to commute to an office where none of my teammates are located just to spend all day doing the same thing I do from home now. I will not be having in-person conversations because no one I work with or support is located at that office. I will still be communicating through emails, zoom, teams, etc. This is effectively a pay cut.
The promotion restriction on remotes is now harsher. You used to be eligible for promotion to I8, now there is no promotion without JC approval. My manager said there will be no such thing as promoting a remote employee.
This new: Project BOHICA, sc--wing you over with velocity.
We had a departmental meeting right before the announcement. We were told that meritocracy is directly tied to modernization. Part of the discussion involved how coming into the office was viewed as modernization. Bottom line: no or minimal pay for remote.
The only 'efficiency' gained is allowing them to use this to achieve reduction to headcount. Good luck with your terminations MD and JC. Remember that everyone is on the list. Even you will get your turn some day.
It's not efficient or productive. Spot on, my friend!
"My team is spread across five continents and countless time zones. No one works in the office near me. I’m going to be spending thousands of dollars and hundreds of hours a year commuting to an office to work by myself. I see he’s all about “efficiency” these days. Tell me how that’s efficient?"
20 years with EMC/Dell, at no point have I ever been required (or even expected) to be in the office 5 days a week. So no, this isn’t going back to 2019, this going back to the 20th century.
My team is spread across five continents and countless time zones. No one works in the office near me. I’m going to be spending thousands of dollars and hundreds of hours a year commuting to an office to work by myself. I see he’s all about “efficiency” these days. Tell me how that’s efficient?
If you think there is some sort of silver lining in this just stop.
It's been a downward trajectory for Dell and not letting up anytime soon
Your manager won't let you because their managers won't let them work at home. They want you 5 days a week. It's the expectation. It was not the expectation pre covid to be in the office 5 days a week unless you worked in small business.
This is not the same. Also they removed hybrid work but not the promotion ban on remotes. It's okay if you need to believe it's the same to cope with this disappointment with our leadership but it's not the same.