Thread regarding CVS layoffs

Lol...Hi I work in DDAT and I don't know what a primary key is. Also, I don't understand what happens when I copy HTML into notepad or how ETL works so that were not uploading excel templates...yet I'm a Director.

Merit based, baby. If you have skills, you get the job!

How about hiring people who are experienced and educated in what they are doing, not based on color or nationality background! CVS is horrible!!!!

Looks like their supplier diversity program is gone.

A CVS DEI and Equity class, along with combatting Racist Artificial Intelligence is pretty much the reason this company has sunk to a new low.

I feel that the originator of this post has a good heart. I really do. But like the person said above, anyone bringing hate, discrimination and racism is not going to be deterred by a ignorant DEI training or a person getting up in teh Town Hall with a frozen frowny face on pushing consequences for people who do not follow teh inclusion nightmare.

Training people to promote marginalized people is NOT the mission of any Fortune 100 company or Fortune 500 company. The mission is hiring the BEST and the BRIGHTEST and promoting the BEST and the BRIGHTEST. Any deterrence from this puts every last one of us at risk.

Today the MIP number was announced. It’s dismal because this company has focussed on the entirely wrong thing for too many years. If given the choice between a better bonus and 1 more day of DEI Waste, I would choose teh bonus.

We are getting to the point of no return. Soon, our competitors will puts us in teh dust and we will be left doing flow charts on LLM Fairness Assessments scanning our use of Toxicity and Counterfactual Fairness in Artificial Intelligence

Come on everyone, it's 2025.
If anyone has to be told don't discriminate against religion, homosexuals, race or religion etc. It is too late for that person.

Likely they grew up in a discriminatory location, with closed minded parents and grandparents.

Sitting in CVS hosted class and/or mindlessly clicking through an online training is not going to change them into an upstanding individual.

I guess it allows us to say "we have a DEI program" nothing more.

CVS goes to far with DEI and how it was intended to be used. When DEI training consist of telling white people they should hate themselves and are all racist that is when I realized how sick the woke mind virus was and cvs

My pharmacy is currently in a CVS inside a Target. I thought it was a convenient way to shop when I picked up my monthly Rx. Today will be my last day with both companies.

Since I feel DEI is an important aspect to any business, especially ones that tend to only hire straight, white males, I moved my Rx to Walgreens. I will not spend money at businesses that won't support diversity, equality and inclusion.

Too bad these companies didn't have the huevos to stand up to bullies.

Imagine being a minority and everyone looking at you now wondering if you got the job because of some DEI initiative. If I was a capable minority that wants to be judged by their merits, I'd do everything in my power to get rid of it - problem is the cat may be out of the bag. On the other hand, if I want to be judged by the color of my skin or a bunch alphabet letters, by all means, let's keep these stupid programs.

I've read lots of comments regarding DEI and it's purpose. That may be true, however, it's so NOT practiced here at CVS. This BS as to why some folks don't get promotions while others do? Again, BS. I've been at this company for a long time and in my field of work for even longer and I've seen a change and it's not always for the good for us. It may pad the wallet of upper mgmt but that's the ONLY good I've seen so when it gets down to our level, we don't matter.

Could not have been said better!

Common sense, people are people, the best candidate should get the job. Red, white, black, blue, g-y, straight whatever kind of human.

The OP said it best …

Studies from McKinsey & Harvard Business Review show that diverse teams outperform homogeneous ones in problem-solving, creativity, and financial performance

Which is exactly what is not happening when an entire organization is over 90% from 1 demographic from senior leaders on down.

Companies will GLADLY love gush your identity while doing everything to undermine your autonomy and standing:

depressing your wages by outsourcing jobs overseas

removing your economic leverage by buying cheap slave-produced products from China

and lowering your ability to gain high paying manufacturing jobs by supporting unfair trade deals.

If a DEI sticker makes up for all that, then you have been played.

What is it going to take to make people realize this man is out of his mind?!

He can’t talk about the fact that DEI means that people are being hired who maybe otherwise shouldn’t be. None of his cabinet members should be in the position they are in.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/watch-live-trump-to-speak-on-dc-plane-crash/

To the person who is peaking about dieting instead of DEI, it’s honestly absurd and disappointing that this is the level of discourse some people bring to a discussion about DEI. Instead of engaging with the actual topic—programs designed to foster fairness, respect, and equal opportunity—this kind of response just comes across as immature and dismissive. If you have a legitimate critique, have it. But reducing the conversation to this level? That says more about you than it does about DEI. Clearly YOU need more DEI training.

We don't need a DEI program... well 3 of the letters are right.
We need a DIET program. All these out of shape chunks running a healthcare company is disgusting.

BMI over 25 should get walked out.

Those of you speaking about the fact that we do a lot of outsourcing to India clearly do not understand the intent of DEI programs. Our outsourcing to India began LONG before DEI programs were even in existence. The core purpose of DEI initiatives is to promote fairness, respect, and equal opportunity for all individuals, regardless of race, gender, ability, socioeconomic background, etc. They have helped to reduce discrimination and biases. DEI initiatives have helped address historical inequalities, ensuring that hiring, promotions, and leadership opportunities are more inclusive. They have also helped to close the gender pay gaps between men and women. Studies from McKinsey & Harvard Business Review show that diverse teams outperform homogeneous ones in problem-solving, creativity, and financial performance. To the person who stated they are just treading water now because they were forced to take the training , grow up. With attitudes like the ones you are demonstrating, it is no wonder you aren’t being chosen for promotions.

Yeah India is the real DEI at CVS and efforts to bar other marginalized groups won’t bode well for the workforce. It’s like they don’t realize that all people have potential to be cool and hire you. But it’s clear the Indian nepotism has swallowed DDAT.

Keeping Hispanics, East Asians, qu--r people out all that will further concentrate h1b and Indians. Congrats white dudes you somehow are going to end up represented less in decent paying jobs now.

I sure wonder where all the unqualified g-y people are at, that sounds like it’d be more fun to work around than misogynistic and angry Indian men. I don’t even see women dude. Company ain’t diverse

"The day a few years back where I was FORCED to take DEI training I was done with the company and just treading water since. This place cares more about virtue signaling than making an actual profit and it shows. What a mess. 30% bonus?!?!"

I reckon you’ve got a talent for finding reasons to just keep paddlin' in place, never makin' any real headway. And that’s why you’re so plumb miserable in your work, like a man stuck in a leaky boat, just driftin’ nowhere.

The obnoxious DEI initiatives at this company have caused unfettered nepotism of Indian males in the technology area, at the expense of Indian females, blacks, whites, Hispanics, and every demographic in between. These H1B visas have weaseled their way into executive leadership positions, creating a vicious cycle of further racism and s-xism. The incompetence of our technology leadership is astounding, and we are sitting ducks for risk. But HR will turn the other way, because these people still check the right box.

Nice bait…

Ditto the below comment. You realize that Trump, Musk et al. are just distracting you with anti-DEI to continue your job replacement with AI, offshoring and H1-B more easily. Profit will always win over chestthumping. It just provides a great cover :)

It’s hilarious that right leaning people are celebrating what they think is owning the libs but is actually tech companies now allowed to h1b or offshore the REST OF IT. I’m white and we’re all fu---d

It’ll all be gone in a few years good job guys that programmer in a wheelchair didn’t get it!

The problem with DEI is that the pendulum swings too far the other way and we forget about the rights and views of other. I'm sorry but I have grown tired of the stories on Workday focusing on non heteros-xual employees ( I don't even know the right word to use without offending). Awareness and appreciation are very important
but marginalized groups are NOT more important than anyone else. CVS has become hyperfocused on it.

DEI at CVS is Indians on H1B at lower pay and some Chinese. Period.

What about white men. Do they not deserve to have a job????

Diversity doesn't exist if a division within a company is 45% from one country or group.
Last time Trump was in office, anyone travelling to their country of origin had a difficult time returning. It impacted work. 4 weeks or more abroad...having to communicate at 5 am....no thank you.
This is not just a CVS issue. It began 25 years ago with the move to relational db, the rise of the internet and Y2K remediation. Companies figured out it was cheaper to import the workforce. And here we are layoffs..and not just CVS.

The former chief diversity officer left over a year ago and they never replaced her role. Read the room. DEI was already a goner. Robby Starbuck will take us next.

DEI is based on division and does not support hiring the most talented but instead those that fit a certain demographic.

Good ridden’s!

I’m of the belief that DEI programs without any measures are not meaningful.
I believe in them wholeheartedly though, if clear, equitable and measurable. For example, let’s take a group of software engineers. Domestic and international individuals should be paid the same wage for the same work, and there should be no difference in compensation when averaged by gender and years of experience and performance grade (among others). That introduces responsibility. Salary should be published and transparent in aggregate. Until it is, all of the DEI training has no accountability in practice and it will fail. Which is what CVS is counting on (cue published salary ranges that exceed 100k from max to min, rendering them useless).

The day a few years back where I was FORCED to take DEI training I was done with the company and just treading water since. This place cares more about virtue signaling than making an actual profit and it shows. What a mess. 30% bonus?!?!

Lol.. i don't work here to be 'taught' such nonsense.. go virture signal elsewhere.. rank and file are overwhelmingly tired of being chronically abused through CVSH financial decisions that have lead to this current sh-tshow not to mention this woke idology that obviously has not helped boost the stock price amirite? Of course I am..

Mandatory training? This has got to be a troll post.

I look to a day when people will not be judged by the color of their skin, their religion or ethnicity but by the content of their character. This criteria eliminates a need for DEI.

Who?