I am not even 50, yet I already feel too old for this nonsense. I am tempted to quit and start my own small business. Be my own boss. It will be challenging, but it has to be better than staying at Dell or any other corporate job at this point. Corporate America is out of control, and we are the ones paying the price.
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I've never seen ageism in play...I "have" managed people who used that excuse because they were under performers. Also don't buy that when it's used as an excuse for not being able to find a job. Not saying it doesn't exist, but...
Then again, I'm a big boy and if I don't like a company that I'm working at, I update my resume and get a new job.
"Tell me you're some early career punk who has no clue that ageism is prevalent in the tech workforce without telling me."
I am actually gen x with over 10 companies on my resume.
I did not say there was no age discrimination.
I believe the root of your problems is really deprecated skills and mentality given the 20y at dell.
That hurts you more than any other boogeyman you can think of. Just be honest with yourself
I was laid off from Dell 5 years ago. I loved the company but I felt the last year there I was being ground down. I spoke to others at Dell and they felt the grinding as well. I still love the company but was glad to be laid off and life continued on. I am happier, my life is much more in balance now and want to let the rest of you know there is life outside of Dell and your time there you will end up appreciating but knowing it was time to move on.
Tell me you're some early career punk who has no clue that ageism is prevalent in the tech workforce without telling me.
the one thing which is shared among the ex-dell is this tale of how great it is having 5-10 years plus of dell on the resume and how that will open doors for other tech jobs. This sadly is not the case anymore perhaps was the case circa 2005 but it really doesn't do much for the recent ex-dell employee. The biggest issue dell has that I see is the cream of the talent is not allowed to rise to the top- there is zero promotion from within if you don't posses the desired 'packaging' and that is sad and leads to workforce apathy.
LoL. Tell me you've been at dell for 20y without telling me you've been at dell for 20y.
I'd stay as long as you can handle the toxic environment because after 50, tech companies won't hire and if they do, you will get decreased pay and no work-life balance.
I wish you the best if you strike out on your own. Remember- your biggest expense will be be health insurance. Plann according and good luck!
"Plenty of companies aren't as bad as this."
Yes. The toxic nature of Dell is real. You can't help but be affected by it.
Everyone is affected by it and it manifests itself in destructive ways in or out of the office.
I am fully remote and I still cringe at group meetings and especially onsites.
I will never return to the office. can't even imagine having to RTO to Dell.
i will take a package before that
Hey, this sounds like both burnout and a touch of depression. I've been here so I feel you. I would highly recommend two things:
- schedule some time with a therapist. Dell does provide EAP as wait lists can be daunting. Use it. Know that Dell is having to pay for it if that makes you feel better!
- Take a week off and shut your laptop. Don't think about work at all. During this week, do something you used to really enjoy. Catch up with friends, go exercise, whatever it takes, but fully log off. Don't job search during this time unless you believe it will help relive stress
- start looking elsewhere. Plenty of companies aren't as bad as this. You'll find a greener pasture.
It's difficult to separate job and life, but it's important for your own mental health, and your mental health is more important than Dell.
I am already looking for job and interviewing even tho i am on engineering position and not in danger, i just couldnt stand this chaos and treatment anymore...
This place has been really draining to my soul. I’ve been short with loved ones. I’ve stopped doing things I used to enjoy. I feel a lot of anger like I’ve been hoodwinked. Im hoping like he-l I finally catch a layoff come Monday, but if I don’t. I still know in my heart and mind I HAVE to go. So to the OP and everyone else that’s on this thread. Do what’s best for you. Truly. I know the job market is scary right now. But I’m rooting for anyone and everyone who went through this disaster to end up happy.
Check out One2Gration for guidance. The founder is former Dell, 3x, and stood up to discrimination from the good ole Dell boys club. His manager John K. even admitted to being a proud boy!
Well he was fired, sued, and started a business helping folks do the same.
I'm there and just waiting for the bonus and then I will be leaving.
I would love to do the same. I am 54 and I do feel old more frequently than before. I do like my current job but who knows for how long will be on that position. I do want my daughter to graduate from college before I move to a new venue so I hope I can survive for another 2 years in my current job which is interesting and I enjoy working with my colleagues who can be my sons and daughters.
I'd love to do so myself. I'll assume you're in your 40s, so you have a solid ~20 working years left. It would be good to make the most of it and do what you want rather than wasting it away.