Thread regarding Intel Corp. layoffs

2 out of 10 can WFH (minority have adjusted)
8 out of 10 cannot WFH (majority can't adjusted)

A company needs those 2 out of 10 to guide those 8 out of 10. The 2 out of 10 receives premium pay to lead. Amazon, JP Morgran, Morgan Stanley, Disney, Twitter (X) are examples.

Look how efficient the def met team is

An office will never make you a better worker. Collaboration can be done effectively remotely as well, as long as you have the tools you need. Time is wasted in an office environment, full of politics, stupid unnecessary meetings and the lack of privacy and proper space to concentrate. Flexibility also plays a role: not everyone is at its peak 8-5. Some people work better and faster outside those hours, and you are forced to work 8-5 that leaves no room for people to adjust their schedule and be more productive. But this is a topic most people won't be ready to discuss, specially boomers.

'US WFH will inevitably result in layoff. Lower cost will prevail.'
excellent, get rid of the useless overpaid 'upper' management

call me crazy but shouldn't people that don't contribute be laid off

Nope. Studies show talented people actually suffer, badly, with WFH. And logically, this dysfunction just percolates up and throughout any organization. What say you to these facts?

OP is clueless ... start with re-organizing teams that are spread all over the planet. CVPs on down created this cluster f organization. Talented people excel working from home, just like OPs mu-m is great working from home.

TD engineers who WFH should be fired immediately

Just offshore any Intel WFH job to India with limited benefits. This will save a boat load of money.

Stop watching Floracing while Working from Home.

Hopefully a new owner will stop this madness.

Normal mismanagement by Intel. They should have told everyone to get their as--s back to the office months ago. WFH is dead even for J P Morgan Chase call center employees. Woke is dead too, shutdown the Intel DEI operations and save $$$$

The point of building faster and faster compute is to fully integrate humans into a matrix like network of information technology.

I am sure all the engineers will be looking at their kids in the future and be like - kids these days are so spoilt ! Back in my day I had to export excel data into jmp to plot them. These kids literally do all that with a movement of their eyes!

D-mb luddites might always vouch for old style of working but wfh is the future and here to stay and become more ubiquitous if anything. The whole reason companies are issuing rto mandates is because each and every time, within a few months, people start slacking off and start wfh inevitably. Only exceptions are bay area companies with lots of Visa folks who are basically indentured servants anyways and will lick the bosses door handle just to stay in the USA.

Having said that, I do still like to go into the fab once in a while to look at my tools and talk to technicians and fses to understand what sorts of issues we are facing on the ground. I think reality will never get replaced entirely by humanoids and robots. Just as the stage coach mechanics went out of business by the mid 1920s, adapt or perish.

I can also see where collaboration is sometimes difficult over teams and face to face communication is needed for things like sales, marketing etc. There is no one size fits all solutions.

RCGs who have moved States or even countries to be far away from their families can feel trapped sitting at home and going into an office or workplace can at least bring about a modicum of socializing which humans need just for their physical and mental well being.

Prior to 2019, intel was struggling with 10nms yield and ramp. Tigerlake was launched in 2020. Record revenues of 79 billion usd (a covid driven spike for sure) were achieved in 2021. 1276 products were fully td, ramped and launched in 2022, 2023. Intel has lots of issues, but wfh ain't one of them.

US WFH will inevitably result in layoff. Lower cost will prevail.

I won’t be in any office any time soon. I’m officially designated as remote. This the way things are now

I like the desperate reply from WFH people... well you must not be very smart if you can't efficiently WFH... Get used to the idea, you will be back in the office soon. It is the current direction across the industry. Intel is an industry laggard but it will eventually catch up on this.

Any smart engineer with good communication skills can work from anywhere and still be highly efficient and productive. On the other hand, those individuals who were hired through connections rather than based on their technical expertise typically lack communication skills necessary for remote work, which is why they need additional time commuting to the office. Face-to-face interaction is the only way for them to effectively communicate with others... :(

"Engineering brain storming sessions needs to be done a team in a meeting room or in a development lab."

excellent time to bring back all the outsourced "work" because that is definitely being done remotely

also I feel that "upper" management is way too isolated from the people below them
their behavior is FRUSTRATING, INEFFICIENT AND NOT PRODUCTIVE
they need to sit with the people below them instead of in their isolated cushy offices
I mean really is intel a day spa or a workplace

go brainstorm with your AI

@a3
Same at OC & CH sites. Last time I was at CH, pretty much the only people on site were technicians & construction workers.

Completely agree - US teams need to get back in the office! I hear it’s like a morgue in FM and JF.

What?!?! You mean...

• Running Errands
• Doing Laundry
• Going to kid's games
• Watching Netflix
• Sleeping, etc.

...doesn't produce innovative engineering results?

We need Elon!