With Canada getting a 25% tariff on exports, is the price of natural gas and oil about to go up, or can the US make it just fine without our energy?
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"He is requesting 60% of our natural resources for America use in exchange for dropping any tariffs."
If this is true, then Polly-Evra is just planning on selling Canada to the lower bidder. This is not a 'deal' - this is the US robbing Canada blind. 51st state? Nope - we won't get treated with any respect at the hands of that dictator.
Trump doesn't even see us humans. He needs to be fought - the right is just looking to enrich them selves further and have no desire to even try to make canadians prosperous
Polly-Evra is the sleazy used car salesman of politics.
Educated in Canada? Nope - dropped out of University of Calgary in his 3rd year. Then completed coursework through Athabasca University - A mail order diploma. He has not held a post related to foreign relations. Values? Nope - he argued against reparations for the residential school system ... and only apologized after he realized it could hurt him politcally. He was minister of employment and social development of which his track record is horrible.
All he has are slogans .... and he is in the back pocket of Trump.
He will sell Canada, it's resources, and it's people out to get a seat at Trumps circlej--kSo - you want a guy with a mail order diploma in internal relations, with not trade or economic background to be the guy at the table with Trump?
My wife’s brother-in-law’s sister friend works closely with whitehouse staff. She has indicated that Trump will be willing to drop tariffs on oil and gas in exchange for a deal similar to Ukraine. He is requesting 60% of our natural resources for America use in exchange for dropping any tariffs.
The Trump whitehouse fully supports a Daniel Smith and Pierre Polievere government as their principles are aligned. Pierre is on side as to supporting Trump before the election and has repeatedly stated “Canada is broken”. These are people the whitehouse can work with.
We will likely see any support roles that are “desk jobs” from project management, operations, logistics, finance, HR, and technology move below the 49th unless as the whitehouse has said “governor Polievere agrees to Canada becoming the 51st state”. If you don’t have a field job be ready in the coming months for these roles to move.
You can already see our premier is moving jobs to the private sector in healthcare etc. This is just the start of changing our province to be ready to be part of the USA. I’m seriously worried about my own job and that of my family.
We are considering moving to BC, Ontario or Atlantic Canada. Montreal might be an option but mostly West Mount or Pointe Claire (English areas) as our French isn’t that great.
About time we starting slapping Canadians for their bad behavior towards us … I agree and applaud our governments plan to annex Canada. They stole those resources from us 100’s of years ago
That’s our oil and minerals and you’ve mismanaged the whole thing for decades. Our lord and savior jesus has put honorable trump in charge to finally take what is rightfully ours. Can’t wait to see the US wipe that smug smile of your faces. I hope he comes up with a plan to relocate Canadians as well.
God bless America.
Pierre Polievere has it right “axe the tax”. We need to ensure that fossil fuels are used for as long as possible for the survival of Alberta.
Ms. Smith and Polievere are the only ones standing up for our oil and gas industry. Without it our future is in bad shape.
The other posts are correct. Climate change might be real but for the sake of Alberta we should be able to drill and mine our resources as long as other oil producing countries. We should also be able to use the resources as long as possible.
Pierre speech on Canadian Flag day said it all. PP might be an id--t but he’s our id--t who doesn’t believe climate change is real. As for the environment hold to our belief in Jesus and everything will be okay. It’s a test.
Why else would we be given natural resources if it’s not a gift from for us to use and benefit from. Why is the rest of Canada trying to stop us from using this gift?
It’s not yours anymore. It’s Trumps - we all know it and the faster you wise up to the fact the better off Alberta will be.
Tariffs are just foreplay to the wet dream of trump taking all your resources for himself.
Bend the knee and kiss the ring - Trump and Jesus will save you from climate change as long as you fork off your prosperity.
We need to keep repeating and lobbying that “climate change is fake”. Sc--w the environment and everyone else. We need to have an Alberta first attitude. What is all this talk about getting off fossil fuels? We have been gifted our natural resources including fossil fuels here in Alberta. It’s ours for the taking.
If we were not meant to use it why would G-d bless Alberta with an abundance of natural resources? Say NO to any EV cars, heat pumps etc. use gas stoves at home not electric.
The future of Alberta jobs is paramount. You protect Alberta jobs the rest of economy in Canada will fall in place.
What proof do the lefties have about climate change? They tried to control us with the pandemic mandates. This all needs to stop now. The environment has and always will adjust and correct for any changes to the surroundings environment. It will take care of its self. Jesus would not have given us these natural resources if it wasn’t meant for us to use.
Mining, quarrying, and oil and gas together account for 22% of the Albertan GDP. Some other sectors benefit, but we are not a one trick pony. It's very significant... but fossil fuels are not nearly the whole story.
“ You need a govt that BELIEVES in the reality of climate change for the future of Alberta.” total haha.
Alberta is fossil fuels that our economy. Without fossil fuels we don’t have an economy at all. For the future of Alberta we need to ensure we are able to produce oil and oil products.
You need a govt that BELIEVES in the reality of climate change for the future of Alberta.
The world is moving away from fossil fuels, this small reprieve via The trumpster fire will not change reality.
Think about the future of generations that have to live on this planet.
Or don’t - let your children live
In he-l
Why are we complaining about Daniel Smith and the UCP? No matter what Alberta will only elect a conservative government. Federally we only elect a conservative government. We need a government that does not believe in the reality of climate change for the future of Alberta. We must do all in our power to show climate change is fake.
We need to do our best to stop the tariff of Alberta products.
Nothing will change for Alberta. We will always vote conservative no matter what anyone says. We could complain about Ms. Smith or PeePee but come election time - you guessed it we ( Alberta) will only vote conservative.
Face it we have to depend on Ms. Smith and PeePee because no one in Alberta will elect a Liberal, NDP or Green for that matter.
Harper memes won’t protect you from tariffs.
UCP is in bed with corruption and will bow to Trump and destroy Alberta. The existing UCP government is not going to help you.
Conservative politics are dead in Canada, primarily because they have gone too far right - anti trans, anti freedom, anti worker ( union busters ). Harper was transparent in his sc--wing over of the middle class it’s unheard of I these day to see a politician so open about his preference for big business and being in bed with them.
Tariffs are coming and they will destroy Alberta - get ready. Alberta addiction to US markets is now about to blown up in the face of these tariffs which won’t stop until Trump gets Canada and your assets for nothing.
Your precious conservative govt will sell you out in a heartbeat to secure markets for Donald trump.
Seriously wake up. Alberta only elects MPs from the Conservative Party federally for a reason. It’s the only party that has the real interest of our province at heart. Do you seriously think Carbon/Freeland or Carbon/Carney can actually do something for Alberta? Think again. Just watch when another election is called - we will elect only conservative MPs and that’s a fact. To qoute Stephen Harper only a “Strong Stable Conservative Majority Government” can actually do something not only for Alberta but Canada.
The same applies provincially. We only elects conservative for a reason. It’s the only party that can lead us provincially.
Fight alt right with alt right I guess
Wake up Alberta. Trump only care about one person and that’s himself, and the oligarchs he has out in charge
The PeePee / Dani coalition only want to allow the annexation of Canada.
Trump will come in claim all your pipelines, all your oil as his. There will be no sharing of revenue - bi--hing about equalization payments now? Just watch when Trump / Dani / P-e P-e coalition take all your assets and leave you with nothing. He came out this weekend and basically said he wants to annex Canada - so tariffs are just a diversion.
Go ahead - Alberta, align to these leaders, or sorry shall we refer to you as District 2 going forward?
I totally agree only a right wing party like Reform federally and WildRose provincially can get this out of this mess. Ms. Smith and Pierre Polievere are are only hope in winning against trump.
The leftie like the NDP and liberal party will be a disaster for us. We need a strong conservative super majority government to fight this mess. A super majority is when the other parties are reduced to non official party status.
We can let Alberta sink
The left win parties (Carny and Freeland) and the ultra-left party (NDP) federally will be a mess for Alberta. Look at the years we had the liberal government federally. All a mess for Alberta. Only a strong stable conservative majority government can lead not only Alberta but the rest of a Canada that we are in and deal with Trump effectively.
We need to ensure that are friends and family not only here in Alberta but in Ontario and Quebec vote for a strong stable conservative majority government.
Do you seriously think Freeland or Carnie can deal with Trump? Think again. Only Pierre Polievere has what it takes to lead this country out of this mess.
Think about our future here in Alberta.
Guaranteed he will restart tariff talk after 30 days.
This is not an economic play for Donald dumper - this is a power and ideological play.
He does not want tariffs or an economic union - he wants Canada so he can rob its assets blind for the oligarchs.
Tariffs are just a tool of disruption for him to push alt right ideological views into Canada and destabilize it socially like they did in the US.
This never has nor ever will be about economic imbalances. This is power hungry oligarchs sealing the deal to control and we-ponize their wealth
Everybody should just keep quiet and let him claim the Win. Pointing out the fact that he achieved nothing that wasn't already in flight is a mistake.
No matter what you think of the man or his policies, you have to admit that he has the thinnest of skins, and it's completely possible that he'll resume this tariff talk in February for no other reason than people said he was bested.
Much of this ‘concession’ on border security was already announced in December and less than 1% of fentanyl comes through CA border. This whole thing is a clown show. Market play, election interference… who knows wtf they are up to, but it ain’t border security.
"I'll check in here. If the tariffs hit oil in February, I'll acknowledge it, and take the gloating with humility."
Guess I'm safe. I don't see tariffs on oil and gas in March either, for the record.
"So is the 10% tariff going to apply to crude oil transiting through the US to Ontario and Quebec refineries?"
Not unless there's a custody transfer that moves ownership of the product to an American entity. And there would not be.
Our team lead in tech support told us to put off any large purchases as we may see layoffs at least for office type jobs. Apparently finance, operations and HR might have cuts.
No word about field workers at this point. Let us know if you have any updates.
So is the 10% tariff going to apply to crude oil transiting through the US to Ontario and Quebec refineries? Whatever transit agreements we have don’t seem to matter, its just ink on paper? This is potentially a huge impact to Ontario gas prices on top of everything else.
So now the US wants to buy Venezuelan crude rather than Canadian? Because Canada and Mexico are such a terrible allies for going along with the Trump-negotiated USMCA?
"We have always been at war with Eurasia"
2 weeks after the inauguration
"We have always been at war with Eastasia"
US oil refiners will look to Latin America and the Middle East to replace suddenly more expensive Canadian and Mexican crudes
Totally agree stuff will happen under Trump. Alberta will be spared most of the hit. We have always voted provincially (except that one time) and federally conservative. Trump realises that Alberta should not be punished with the mess with the rest of Canada. We may initially have a 10% tariff on our products but this will be lowered.
Our premier actually has the pulse of what is going on. The “buck a beer” premier is too busy calling an election to cover up the hundreds of scandals he has caused.
Alberta will hopefully not feel much. It will be up to Alberta to generate money for equalization payments to the rest of Canada.
"We are also blessed with a premier and provincial government that is actually standing up for Alberta."
Smith is rolling over. She is a lap dog to DT, nothing more. Our Liberal government is standing up to this garbage, premiers of all stripes in other provinces are standing up to this garbage despite political differences, Smith is doing SFA.
If you align your personal beliefs only with the party you vote for, you're doing it wrong. That's not how a democracy is supposed to work. People doing that has brought in fascist idelogies in the US and is a threat to our sovereignty as Canadians. The only person within Enbridge who benefits from this is GE. Try as you may, I guarantee you will never be as rich as him.
Once again, enjoy your boot licking.
Alberta is a conservative province. We made the mistake once of electing an NDP government not anymore. Only a conservative government provincially, federally and yes even locally can help save us.
You should have more faith in the best province in Canada. We have been blessed with abundant natural resources to use. We are also blessed with a premier and provincial government that is actually standing up for Alberta.
"Our great premier" hahahahahahaha hahahaha. Greg and co got down on their knees and begged her for a press conference to say nothing a while back. We toured her around on our dollar - we paid for that, our merit increases paid for that, ultimately our STIP paid for that. Collusion, no guarantees of anything, and sc--wing over what we take home all in one fair swoop. Keep licking the boots you dummy.
His target is the 51st state, not just oil, your ido#t enbridges
We Alberta are in a lot better position than the rest of Canada. Our great premier has been able to get the tariffs lowered on oil and gas to 10% from 25%. As we all know energy is the most important export for Canada. Although it is a hit, it won’t be as bad compared to the rest of the country. As you guessed it Quebec will be first in line for transfer payments from equalization, followed by Ontario and Atlantic Canada.
Our natural resources are key to the Alberta economy and Canada for that matter. Ms Smith is truly sticking up for Alberta. I don’t believe we will see any layoffs as oil and gas are sold at a discount to the USA. Hopefully we can get all the tariffs removed on oil and gas products from the greatest province in Canada.
Enbridge lines are forced to shutdown. 50% Canadian employees are cut
Just another note (same guy), if he went through with 10%, Canadian crude is still their cheapest source of fuel. That's probably manageable. But I don't believe it.
I'll check in here. If the tariffs hit oil in February, I'll acknowledge it, and take the gloating with humility. But if they don't, I'd like to hear, "You were right, and I was oh so wrong." Deal?
I'm that guy. And he's already backed the language off from 25 to 10, and punted into mid month. And when that time comes, he'll pull it again. I'm still 80%.
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-tariffs-exception-canada-mexico-oil-2024059
Won’t be any exemption for oil and gas, as expected for anyone who knows this has nothing to do with border security. So where’s the guy who put 80% of his chips on that?
Umm no
Last time I checked multinational companies have no rights to to a country and that is just wishful thinking on tariffs
Jesus fu-k the id--ts have taken over the world and enbridge
If the assets are owned by a multinational company headquartered in the US then there would be less risk of having tariffs laid upon it…you rube.
"I suspect this came from a US employee, as they seem wildly mis-informed by their id--t president on what facts are." This from the country that elected and has been led by Trudeau for over 9 years? Pot meet Kettle!
file bankruptcy and move to US? how does that solve the problem? You just going to dig up alberta and take it with you to Houston?
That's a big backhoe.
Can't imagine the tariff on removing a landmass from Canada and taking all the great oil and gas to Houston.
Just because HO is in Houston doesn't mean assets in a soveriegn Canada now become the property of US. I suspect this came from a US employee, as they seem wildly mis-informed by their id--t president on what facts are.
We can file bankruptcy and move headquarters to Houston.