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An Aramco Expat "success" story

This is a true story of an Expat who, for all I know, may still be at Aramco. I worked around him the entire time I was at the company. His story is far from unique. You could probably copy -> paste it onto dozens of "successful" Expats at Aramco.

This is an Expat with a mediocre career in the West before he came to Aramco. The first thing I noticed was that nobody, Expat or Local, talked to him unless they had to. He was polite, but seemed nervous. Once I gained the trust of other Expats, I was told to never confide anything to him because he was a spy for management. I heard he was publicly berated by management when he first started because he had no common sense and over focused on details at the expense of the big picture. Eventually, management figured out that this guy would do ANYTHING they asked, and so he became the designated flunky for whatever Division Head happened to be in charge.

This man is as close as an Expat can come these days to success at Aramco. He was even promoted during the post pandemic labor shortage when management decided to throw bones to their favorite dogs. As far as I know, this man has no friends or family living in the Kingdom. He came in at 6:45 AM and left at 5:15 PM, ate lunch at his desk, and generally seemed to stay busy all day.

If you plan to be at Aramco for more than a couple years, this guy is who you should model yourself after.

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Post ID: @OP+1jh3sw7nx

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The only successful expat at Aramco is the one who arrives, does their job, amasses a whole lot of money and then leaves on their own terms without so much as a glance over their shoulders looking back.

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Post ID: @1v9+1jh3sw7nx

Always had to be careful with Lebanese colleagues

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Post ID: @195+1jh3sw7nx

Yes, a waste of time. No matter, there are always individuals so unhappy in their present situation that they will risk it and make the move. Reminds me of the old trope, 'be careful of what you ask for'.

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Post ID: @17j+1jh3sw7nx

I dont get it. Arguing with Saudis is a waste of time. No matter what we say, there will be people who are willing to destroy their career and move their family to Saudi. Like Saudis always say: Best of Luck.

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Post ID: @16k+1jh3sw7nx

While I won't deny the spying doesn't exist or that it is an act of disrespect, I will say you cannot place blame only on the secretaries or other expats. Most of the time, the orders to spy on others (expat & local) comes from above. My manager in the D&WO Planning group came in, set up his spy network and quickly destroyed the culture in the group. This was his goal and was proud of this accomplishment. Leading the department through intimidation, fear and mistrust of those around you, became the new norm. My only regret is not taking this s-o-b behind the proverbial woodshed.

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Post ID: @vf+1jh3sw7nx

To be there beyond 2 or 3 years you must have to seriously lick @ss. And sell your soul completely. I left after 2 years...with my soul bruised but still intact. Had some money saved too which helped. But then I didn't go crazy spending when I was there. As fir expat secretaries, that previous comment tells you alot about the calibre and character of those hired. Meowww

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Post ID: @nd+1jh3sw7nx

The irony is that the person OP talked about may soon be shown the door anyway. Licking boot and spying is not a skill that is limited to Western Expats. Plenty of those types in low wage places.

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Post ID: @fd+1jh3sw7nx

I've seen it firsthand but long gone now. Gets progressively worse each subsequent generation.

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Post ID: @dz+1jh3sw7nx

Just to add, be careful of the expat secretaries. They are spying, reporting back to management. Don't share too much, nobody is your friend.

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Post ID: @dv+1jh3sw7nx

This post should be a warning to all new hires, if there even are any now. Long term expats should be treated with suspicion until you've been at the company long enough to find out about them. This goes for everybody you meet really, but there are certain people you need to be especially careful around. Fellow new arrivals are probably your best option for friends.

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Post ID: @as+1jh3sw7nx

Agreed. A great advertisement for aramco. Kiss backside, say woof, have zero backbone or integrity and you might just get your minor promotion! Moon watcher and fellow prayer merchant helps. NEVER EVER have a considered opinion on anything. Say yes always.

What a great grade of character this attracts! Says it all. Failed organization.

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Post ID: @aj+1jh3sw7nx

There were always quite a few of those around.

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Post ID: @a6+1jh3sw7nx

Being the right religion and kissing the right derrieres also helps.

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Post ID: @a4+1jh3sw7nx

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