Thread regarding Boeing Co. layoffs

Boeing needs to start designing a new plane soon to help turn things around, former CEO says.

Oops Boeing can longer develop new airplanes. Not after they deliberately forced out all the experienced old guys.

"Boeing should start designing a new plane as soon as possible", a former CEO has said.

Phil Condit told The Wall Street Journal that working on a new plane could boost morale.

In recent years, Boeing has only updated past models rather than designed entirely new planes.

A former Boeing CEO has called for the company to start designing a new plane as soon as possible to help change its fortunes.

Phil Condit, who led the planemaker from 1996 to 2003, told The Wall Street Journal, "You've got to get people excited about what they're doing. You don't come to work just for a paycheck. You come to work because you care about what you're doing."

Condit was asked as part of an article that asked several industry leaders how Boeing could turn things around after a difficult year.

Boeing's share price fell 31% in 2024 — the worst performer on the Dow Jones Industrial Average. It faced a wave of scrutiny from customers and regulators after a door plug came off an Alaska Airlines 737 Max in midair last January. A seven-week strike, further limiting aircraft production, compounded its problems.

The resolution of the strike included a commitment that Boeing's next commercial airplane would be built in the Seattle area — if a new program is launched during the term of the agreement.

Boeing last announced a new plane model more than 20 years ago — the 787 Dreamliner — which entered commercial service in 2011.

In the years since, the planemaker has instead worked on planes which are updates to previous models — but these have come with problems.

The 737 Max is the fourth-generation descendant of a single-aisle airliner designed in the 1960s.

The 737 Max suffered two crashes in 2018 and 2019, in which 346 people died.

MCAS, a software that played a major role in the crashes, was added because the Max had a tendency to tilt upward in some scenarios — linked to the addition of new, larger engines.

In 2019, The New York Times reported that the 737 Max program was hurried to compete with rival Airbus' A320neo, which broke records at 2011's Paris Air Show.

Boeing's next plane is set to be the 777X — a modernized version of the world's most popular wide-body jet, the 777.

However, it has been beset by certification delays. Initially set to enter service in 2020, Boeing announced last October this has been pushed back to 2026.

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Post ID: @OP+1jh1tfn1q

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They already decided many years ago that the next new airplane would be built in Charleston. With most of the engineering being done by suppliers and what’s done internally being done at design centers.

Having to close the Design Center, Moscow really put a wrench in their plans. As they no longer have the confidence to design a new airplane as most of the engineering leaders, they would be dependent upon retired or left the company.

Even if they decided to hire more people for a new aircraft program, they don’t have the skilled leadership technical leadership to develop those people.

When they outsource most of the 787 engineering cost them to be two years late plus they lost all the expertise and they’re completely depended upon suppliers who may or may not decide to share their innovations with the company.

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Post ID: @tz+1jh1tfn1q

There needs to be a long period of NO BAD NEWS for there to be excitement about a new plane versus new flying coffin

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Post ID: @tv+1jh1tfn1q

New plane? We can't even get our old ones to safely operate.

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Post ID: @ss+1jh1tfn1q

Hahaha, says the dethroned corrupt ho--y toad king who destroyed the company by forcing out all the experienced people who would be needed to develop a new airplane. Boeing's last new airplane, the 787, was a financial disaster with no break even point and Boeing loses money with every delivery. And Boeing can't even successfully do an upgrade to an existing airplane as demonstrated by 737Max and 777X. Boeing is just threading water until they are ultimately drowned by Airbus and COMAC. But that won't stock the Wallstreet gang for hawking Boeing stock which has not reflected the true health or real state of the company since 1990.

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Post ID: @ed+1jh1tfn1q

But please please please get this build at a non-union site

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Post ID: @dw+1jh1tfn1q

Phil was the beginning of the end.

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Post ID: @dn+1jh1tfn1q

We don’t have the knowledge to design a clean sheet airplane. Very sad. Haven’t the knowledge or motivation to even build more than 20 a month!! Lol

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Post ID: @d0+1jh1tfn1q

Condit is saying this? Coming from the guy who was the start of the downfall of Boeing with McDonnell Douglas merger is rich. He presided over the merger with Douglas and then began the slow decay of the company. He is the seed that eventually bloomed this troubled company. Phil, please, try not to speak.

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Post ID: @ae+1jh1tfn1q

Yes, lets have an Accountant design a paper money airplane.

This is another company that puts bean counters first.

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