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There's no rhyme or reason to PIPs

I know about several colleagues that got a PIP, sometimes entirely out of the blue, without apparent reason, while the definition of a PIP is that it is a last resort for underperforming people. There should have been a series of "red signs" before someone gets a PIP theoretically. And it should all start with the definition of "performance", lacking mostly. Some sources say that management has an MBO/KPI that incites them to distribute PIP's ... sounds perverse. Often, including HR, it is sold as "an exercise wherein you will be helped to improve", your manager will help to make it a success ... and other nonsense. Also saw a particular colleague who was fired at the end of his PIP, did not get 100 % of sales target, only 95 %. I consider this whole PIP as just being an instrument, if you want to beat someone, then use the PIP-process. As another reaction already mentioned, you may have annoyed someone above you, willingly or accidentally, which makes the PIP useful to blacken someone. Objectives are defined into it, often aspects where you do not have control about, so there starts the easy exercise for the supervisor. You're out of control and hence are entirely surrendered to the will of the one judging about the fulfillment ... This company talks a lot about "ethics", "honesty" and "integrity" and other nice terms ... I'd say : walk the talk instead.

An excellent post from @3owb+1j1YTkV4, bumped for visibility.

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Post ID: @OP+1j9oRHJK

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That’s an interesting take on PIP. I’m sure it doesn’t feel good to be put on one, especially for driven and usually successful individuals. But, do you see PIP as a tool that can be used both ways?
If a leader puts you on a PIP, your progress, your attainment is now on an additional record…with additional eyes on it. This could be a good thing, no?
PIP is a tool intended to drive improvement.- AND to document objectivity on the managers part. A CYA for the company.
Let’s say you meet the PIP objectives, hit / exceed target, etc. But, your boss still lets you go. Could it be used to argue bias?
I’d suggest anyone in this circumstance, go to HR and demand to see attainments of peers, for comparison.

Doing so is GOOD for the company.

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Post ID: @iwgf+1j9oRHJK

I got PIPed at Dell a number of years ago (and got fired as a result). Who did I tick off? To this day, I'm not certain. I do know that my manager did two things that were COMPLETELY improper:

  1. He used a case where I followed directions and policy in regards to a shipment of parts (there was a server that wouldn't POST, we stripped it to min to POST and no go, so I sent out a min to POST kit minus processor). I asked my level 2 if we could include a fan (this required level 2 permission anyway), he declined. I sent the parts and included a tech to replace them. Tech goes out, replaces everything, server POSTs fine but 1 fan doesn't turn. He called back in and ordered a replacement fan. Thus I got DINGed for a repeat dispatch! (My 1 RD that entire month!)
  2. The manager in question pulled metrics I had never heard of before out of seemingly thin air and showed me how I wasn't meeting them. WOW. For both those reasons, I was fired.

Yes unfair targeted PIPs happen at Dell. I have firsthand knowledge of this.

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Post ID: @9bid+1j9oRHJK

As a former leader at Dell, I will confirm that PIPs are used in that manner. If you p$ssed off a peer (Dell is a popularity club - think of its maturity as an 8th Grader), your manager or you do not "fit" the profile of their latest crusade, OR you make too much $$ and they need to cut the P&L or that cost center. It is a super win for management if you have everything nicely getting set for the next quarter, they will sh$t-can you and give the accounts to a buddy or the "right" type of person so they all feel better about themselves in RR, TX - it is literally the worst place I have worked in my very long career in IT.

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Post ID: @2otu+1j9oRHJK

Hey just move on OP. Smart people don't waste too much time at Dell.

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Post ID: @2iyx+1j9oRHJK

Being a white male is a red flag?

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