Thread regarding Frontier Communications Corp. layoffs

Okay, I'll respond to your ignorance, been there done that GTE/Verizon/Frontier. Seen the work force, not off base in my assessment. You're obviously a "union rep/official" defending your base, that's fine. You don't want to respond because you can't defend them.

Refer to the first post about being an ignorant blind man. Again, you’re completely off base. My dislike for the union is great than my dislike for the inept company. But it seems like you’re a mid level manager that thinks they have a clue. But then there you go. That’s the problem with the management here in general. Completely out of touch. Not only with the operation but their own abilities.

Clearly, you are someone that has zero knowledge, background or even an idea of anything you said. You couldn’t be farther off base on ALL points if you were a blind man
On a football field. I’m not even sure why I even bothered to respond to your ignorance

Okay, I'll respond to your ignorance, been there done that GTE/Verizon/Frontier. Seen the work force, not off base in my assessment. You're obviously a "union rep/official" defending your base, that's fine. You don't want to respond because you can't defend them.

“As usual by the pictures, the members were happy not to work for 4 days, these were senior members who had enough money to float themselves or took a vacation. while the less senior guys were left pondering if they're going to have a job. The union did nothing, a lot of theses guys won't pass background or dr-g test”

Clearly, you are someone that has zero knowledge, background or even an idea of anything you said. You couldn’t be farther off base on ALL points if you were a blind man
On a football field. I’m not even sure why I even bothered to respond to your ignorance.

Also, you managed to completely sidestep the question. What did the union members get out of this besides 4 days of lost wages?

As usual by the pictures, the members were happy not to work for 4 days, these were senior members who had enough money to float themselves or took a vacation. while the less senior guys were left pondering if they're going to have a job. The union did nothing, a lot of theses guys won't pass background or dr-g test

Striking only achieved one thing. Taking wages away from people who badly need them. Hope the knuckleheads who called this strike are proud of taking money away from their members. Well done.

Remember the Union is a business. All they want is to increase the size of their income. Ie more members.

Striking is a practice from the last century and achieves nothing. Only success can create opportunity.

Hi I’m a union member in District 9. I would genuinely like an answer to the question the other person asked. What did we gain out of this besides lost wages?

Also, you managed to completely sidestep the question. What did the union members get out of this besides 4 days of lost wages?

Are you seriously this misinformed? This grievance strike had nothing whatsoever to do with:
1, "Settling" the contract, commonly referred to as bargaining.

Pay raises.
BS
This grievance strike was about one thing, and one thing only.... the company utilizing contractors well above the 5% limit agreed to in our most recent contract, the rules of which are still valid while active bargaining continues.

Since your entire post is baseless, I guess it shouldn't be surprising that your "understanding that union employees asked to stay out until the ENTIRE contract was settled" is so completely flawed, it reads as comedy. Why on Earth would the union members participating in the strike, who were 100% informed as to its purpose, start carrying on as you claim? To clear up any confusion, no one asked to remain on strike. 100% fabrication.

While it's easier for me to believe you're just a clueless blowhard spouting off randomly, my more cynical self says that is way too easy. If your motivation is to spread misinformation that suggests the rules of grievance bargaining were being violated, hoping to undermine the (somewhat) positive results from our efforts, then your lies need to be called out for what they are.

I’m well aware of what this strike was about. I am also aware that at least a specific yard and local took a vote and said. Since we are already out this long. Let’s just go all the way and make it an economic strike and stay out until this nonsense is settled. It appears you are the misinformed one. Or simply just out of touch. I can tell you for certain the members are getting tired of lost wages for little to no movement on the things that matter. The company will either layoff at the end of the contract or not. How do “term” employees help anything besides the union coffers for 2 years or the company. Think about it. The union just made it even easier to get rid of employees in 2 years.

I can’t believe the union is this incompetent. If this were a chess game the company would have checkmate after this one.

Lotta wannabe busters have been trolling these threads trying to spread disinformation lately...

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Are you seriously this misinformed? This grievance strike had nothing whatsoever to do with:
1, "Settling" the contract, commonly referred to as bargaining.

2. Pay raises.
3. BS

This grievance strike was about one thing, and one thing only.... the company utilizing contractors well above the 5% limit agreed to in our most recent contract, the rules of which are still valid while active bargaining continues.

Since your entire post is baseless, I guess it shouldn't be surprising that your "understanding that union employees asked to stay out until the ENTIRE contract was settled" is so completely flawed, it reads as comedy. Why on Earth would the union members participating in the strike, who were 100% informed as to its purpose, start carrying on as you claim? To clear up any confusion, no one asked to remain on strike. 100% fabrication.

While it's easier for me to believe you're just a clueless blowhard spouting off randomly, my more cynical self says that is way too easy. If your motivation is to spread misinformation that suggests the rules of grievance bargaining were being violated, hoping to undermine the (somewhat) positive results from our efforts, then your lies need to be called out for what they are.

Interesting. What did the employees actually get out of this besides 4 days of no pay. I mean the union got the potential of 100 more monthly dues on their roster. But the Union members? The contract wasn’t settled. No pay raises. Only seem BS as always. Lost wages while the union declares a victory. It is my understanding the union employees asked to stay out until the ENTIRE contract was settled. Not just one little portion of it. This just means the union will want them back out with no pay in another month or so for some other “grievance”. Like call center people having to actually do something.